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		<title>By: Annonymous</title>
		<link>http://aaron-ng.info/blog/another-government-public-relations-boo-boo.html/comment-page-1#comment-17696</link>
		<dc:creator>Annonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 06:13:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Prime Minister,

We citizens of singapore urge you to PLEASE MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS.

We DO NOT NEED your help. Every time, you mention HELP, we have to run for cover!!!

Help the poor? Raise GST!

Help traffic flow? Up ERP!

Help passenger service? Up Bus fare/MRT fare!

Help us get taxi? Raise taxi fare!

Help us get good government? Raise Minister and Civil servant salary!

Everytime YOU WANT TO HELP, we all PAY FOR IT!!!

THANK YOU THANK YOU...TOLONG LAH, please, we will HELP OURSELVES, no need your help liao.

We DARE NOT ask for help any more!!!

Sir, most honoured sir, I urge you NOT TO HELP Singapore INVEST also!

Everytime your wife invest, we all lose money! Kao liao, kum siah!

Just let us have a dose of bad governance, like recently the Mat Selamat case, like dat....so far, it is ok, your incompetence, we ACCEPT!

PLEASE DO NOT help us have better security! Wait we all kena PAY FOR IT!!

I believe ALL SINGAPOREANS PREFER NOT TO HAVE CRUTCH MENTALITY!

I think it is ok lah, please just take your salary and enjoy life ok?

Thank you thank you, :cry:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Prime Minister,</p>
<p>We citizens of singapore urge you to PLEASE MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS.</p>
<p>We DO NOT NEED your help. Every time, you mention HELP, we have to run for cover!!!</p>
<p>Help the poor? Raise GST!</p>
<p>Help traffic flow? Up ERP!</p>
<p>Help passenger service? Up Bus fare/MRT fare!</p>
<p>Help us get taxi? Raise taxi fare!</p>
<p>Help us get good government? Raise Minister and Civil servant salary!</p>
<p>Everytime YOU WANT TO HELP, we all PAY FOR IT!!!</p>
<p>THANK YOU THANK YOU&#8230;TOLONG LAH, please, we will HELP OURSELVES, no need your help liao.</p>
<p>We DARE NOT ask for help any more!!!</p>
<p>Sir, most honoured sir, I urge you NOT TO HELP Singapore INVEST also!</p>
<p>Everytime your wife invest, we all lose money! Kao liao, kum siah!</p>
<p>Just let us have a dose of bad governance, like recently the Mat Selamat case, like dat&#8230;.so far, it is ok, your incompetence, we ACCEPT!</p>
<p>PLEASE DO NOT help us have better security! Wait we all kena PAY FOR IT!!</p>
<p>I believe ALL SINGAPOREANS PREFER NOT TO HAVE CRUTCH MENTALITY!</p>
<p>I think it is ok lah, please just take your salary and enjoy life ok?</p>
<p>Thank you thank you, <img src='http://aaron-ng.info/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_cry.gif' alt=':cry:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Hear ye! Hear ye! &#187; Blog Archive &#187; A clash of titans</title>
		<link>http://aaron-ng.info/blog/another-government-public-relations-boo-boo.html/comment-page-1#comment-10098</link>
		<dc:creator>Hear ye! Hear ye! &#187; Blog Archive &#187; A clash of titans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2007 04:49:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Apart from the so-called &#8216;counter-insurgency war&#8217; that&#8217;s will be waged on Singapore blogosphere, a different kind of war is emerging elsewhere. There has been quite a war of words between AP Lee Weiling and Mr Philip Yeo, and this war is interesting because it pits a member of the the Lee family against a top civil servant. In other words, it&#8217;s a clash of the titans. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Apart from the so-called &#8216;counter-insurgency war&#8217; that&#8217;s will be waged on Singapore blogosphere, a different kind of war is emerging elsewhere. There has been quite a war of words between AP Lee Weiling and Mr Philip Yeo, and this war is interesting because it pits a member of the the Lee family against a top civil servant. In other words, it&#8217;s a clash of the titans. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: handsomeme</title>
		<link>http://aaron-ng.info/blog/another-government-public-relations-boo-boo.html/comment-page-1#comment-9870</link>
		<dc:creator>handsomeme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Feb 2007 06:37:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did people ever wonder why those policies and idea that make our gov and gahmen rich is ever been condemn and led to revolt in other countries  when other country&#039;s gahmen try to implement them ? 

Gov should reflect on these issue as there is limit to our &quot;obedience&quot;. Don&#039;t take the public as money generating machine. Something that one finish its useful life, toss around, and then replaced and forget.

What&#039;s the nation and public own to the Lee has more than been return to lee&#039;s family in term of wealth, status and asset, what more can Lee ask for ? For our life ? and gahmen can&#039;t even take care of us ?  Trying to be greedy like Dulai will make ppl du-lan.

The anti-establishment view are just simply view that reflect the way gov treat its people and nations. Ppl nowsaday are educated and know what right and wrong. So why gov still think that ppl cannot differentiate that ? Does it imply that only things that praise gov just to make the whole world think Singapore is supergood is good establishment ? By saying good thing to gov, we imply that gov deserve another salary rise of applause. Everytime, controlled media say something positive, thing is bound to increase although most of the time is just the media reporting rosy thing.
Be positive and optimistic we will, but don&#039;t take these characteristic to reap money from us to make good the gahmen&#039;s life.

Gahmen are there to serve the nation and ppl not the nation and ppl to serve them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did people ever wonder why those policies and idea that make our gov and gahmen rich is ever been condemn and led to revolt in other countries  when other country&#8217;s gahmen try to implement them ? </p>
<p>Gov should reflect on these issue as there is limit to our &#8220;obedience&#8221;. Don&#8217;t take the public as money generating machine. Something that one finish its useful life, toss around, and then replaced and forget.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s the nation and public own to the Lee has more than been return to lee&#8217;s family in term of wealth, status and asset, what more can Lee ask for ? For our life ? and gahmen can&#8217;t even take care of us ?  Trying to be greedy like Dulai will make ppl du-lan.</p>
<p>The anti-establishment view are just simply view that reflect the way gov treat its people and nations. Ppl nowsaday are educated and know what right and wrong. So why gov still think that ppl cannot differentiate that ? Does it imply that only things that praise gov just to make the whole world think Singapore is supergood is good establishment ? By saying good thing to gov, we imply that gov deserve another salary rise of applause. Everytime, controlled media say something positive, thing is bound to increase although most of the time is just the media reporting rosy thing.<br />
Be positive and optimistic we will, but don&#8217;t take these characteristic to reap money from us to make good the gahmen&#8217;s life.</p>
<p>Gahmen are there to serve the nation and ppl not the nation and ppl to serve them.</p>
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		<title>By: redbean</title>
		<link>http://aaron-ng.info/blog/another-government-public-relations-boo-boo.html/comment-page-1#comment-9864</link>
		<dc:creator>redbean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Feb 2007 05:51:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi aaron,

i got to disagree with you on your premise that cyberspace is mainly anti establishment. there are many forumers and bloggers, which you rightly said later, that are just commenting on issues, discussing issues, interested in issues concerning the people and country. they may express views that are not in agreement with the establishments at times, or most of the time, but not necessarily anti establishment.

the govt should be pleased and should welcome views from the public, even if they are different. hey didn&#039;t the govt say they welcome views, they want the people to be involved, that the apathetic and apolitical singaporean is a tragedy of this nation?

but then i got to agree with you that cyberspace is the ground for insurgents, and anyone that don&#039;t praise the govts are insurgents. this kind of attitude is very narrow minded, coming from small minds. sure it will lead to greater polarisation and alienation of the middle ground.

like georgie said, &#039;you are either with us or against us&#039;. are we people of the same country? are we called singaporeans?

i also post at www.redbeanforum.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi aaron,</p>
<p>i got to disagree with you on your premise that cyberspace is mainly anti establishment. there are many forumers and bloggers, which you rightly said later, that are just commenting on issues, discussing issues, interested in issues concerning the people and country. they may express views that are not in agreement with the establishments at times, or most of the time, but not necessarily anti establishment.</p>
<p>the govt should be pleased and should welcome views from the public, even if they are different. hey didn&#8217;t the govt say they welcome views, they want the people to be involved, that the apathetic and apolitical singaporean is a tragedy of this nation?</p>
<p>but then i got to agree with you that cyberspace is the ground for insurgents, and anyone that don&#8217;t praise the govts are insurgents. this kind of attitude is very narrow minded, coming from small minds. sure it will lead to greater polarisation and alienation of the middle ground.</p>
<p>like georgie said, &#8216;you are either with us or against us&#8217;. are we people of the same country? are we called singaporeans?</p>
<p>i also post at <a href="http://www.redbeanforum.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.redbeanforum.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: shoestring</title>
		<link>http://aaron-ng.info/blog/another-government-public-relations-boo-boo.html/comment-page-1#comment-9767</link>
		<dc:creator>shoestring</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Feb 2007 14:32:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wj,

Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wj,</p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: wj</title>
		<link>http://aaron-ng.info/blog/another-government-public-relations-boo-boo.html/comment-page-1#comment-9739</link>
		<dc:creator>wj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Feb 2007 09:42:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Aaron,

Paid proxies may say that they are quite secure, but the truly paranoid would not trust the companies- who knows whether they are snooping on users?

Tor is free- and one can contribute bandwidth to the Tor network if he/she wants to.

About the gahmen having people posting anonymous comments on forums and blogs, I just think that the blogosphere must stay united, in case it tries to divide us...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Aaron,</p>
<p>Paid proxies may say that they are quite secure, but the truly paranoid would not trust the companies- who knows whether they are snooping on users?</p>
<p>Tor is free- and one can contribute bandwidth to the Tor network if he/she wants to.</p>
<p>About the gahmen having people posting anonymous comments on forums and blogs, I just think that the blogosphere must stay united, in case it tries to divide us&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: wj</title>
		<link>http://aaron-ng.info/blog/another-government-public-relations-boo-boo.html/comment-page-1#comment-9737</link>
		<dc:creator>wj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Feb 2007 09:32:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>shoestring:

The first step for a non-tech savvy person to install Tor is to take a deep breath, relax, get ready for a nice challenge and click this: http://tor.eff.org/documentation.html.en</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>shoestring:</p>
<p>The first step for a non-tech savvy person to install Tor is to take a deep breath, relax, get ready for a nice challenge and click this: <a href="http://tor.eff.org/documentation.html.en" rel="nofollow">http://tor.eff.org/documentation.html.en</a></p>
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		<title>By: Wanderings, Musings and Happenings from Ian on Singapore</title>
		<link>http://aaron-ng.info/blog/another-government-public-relations-boo-boo.html/comment-page-1#comment-9709</link>
		<dc:creator>Wanderings, Musings and Happenings from Ian on Singapore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Feb 2007 05:32:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Odysseus had the Ear of Achilles, Not Agamemnon...&lt;/strong&gt;

The weekend was spent on personal affairs so I didn&#8217;t managed to keep track of what was being said on the blogosphere.  Came to work, woke up my trusty Firefox and went to IntelligentSingaporean to catch up on the latest news.
And gosh, what a sh...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Odysseus had the Ear of Achilles, Not Agamemnon&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>The weekend was spent on personal affairs so I didn&#8217;t managed to keep track of what was being said on the blogosphere.  Came to work, woke up my trusty Firefox and went to IntelligentSingaporean to catch up on the latest news.<br />
And gosh, what a sh&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Hear ye! Hear ye! &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Over-reaction</title>
		<link>http://aaron-ng.info/blog/another-government-public-relations-boo-boo.html/comment-page-1#comment-9638</link>
		<dc:creator>Hear ye! Hear ye! &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Over-reaction</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Feb 2007 18:58:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I&#8217;ve not formally stated my stand, although I did criticse the move as a public relations disaster. I agree fully with Wayne that it is a good thing that the government has finally decided to come and take on the online critics. It is only in the spirit of freedom of speech that we welcome the government into the cyberspace arena. One-sided views are definitely no good for democracy. In fact, I firmly subscribe to the views of the French philosopher Voltaire, who said, &#8220;I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.&#8221; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I&#8217;ve not formally stated my stand, although I did criticse the move as a public relations disaster. I agree fully with Wayne that it is a good thing that the government has finally decided to come and take on the online critics. It is only in the spirit of freedom of speech that we welcome the government into the cyberspace arena. One-sided views are definitely no good for democracy. In fact, I firmly subscribe to the views of the French philosopher Voltaire, who said, &#8220;I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.&#8221; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Ng</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aaron Ng</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Feb 2007 17:46:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Netlander,

To answer your question, yes you are right. Traffic still goes through your ISP. The difference quite simply is that instead of normal packets of data going through it&#039;s encrypted data. A VPN encrypts with 128 bit SSL technology, which is the same kind of strength that is used in encryption credit card transactions online.

Further, when you connect to a proxy, all your traffic is routed through the proxy server. The ISP can see that you are connected to that proxy server, but beyond that, the ISP cannot know anything else because all the data sent from the proxy server to you and vice versa is encrypted. The ISP will only see constant data transfer of encrypted packets of information from your computer to another server, but it will not be able to tell what the data is, unless it resorts to hacking your encrypted packets, which is of course an offence under the Computer Misuse Act.

If you do not use a proxy, all your internet traffic requests, such as requests to visit websites, requests to download are all visible to the ISP. When you use a proxy server, the server executes all the requests on your behalf and sends back the data to your computer with encryption. So, no one will know what websites you are visiting or what you have downloaded unless logs of the proxy servers are obtained. However, it is of course quite hard to enforce a Singapore court order in another country, so if the proxy server is located out of Singapore, one should be safe from the prying eyes of anyone in Singapore.

The tradeoff is that everything slows down somewhat. You will not be able to surf as fast as you normally can because how fast you can surf is dependent on how fast the server can send the data over to you. So you will need a fast and reliable proxy if you want minimal disruptions. Unfortunately, even the fastest servers will yield a drop of about 30% in performance. That&#039;s the price to pay for privacy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Netlander,</p>
<p>To answer your question, yes you are right. Traffic still goes through your ISP. The difference quite simply is that instead of normal packets of data going through it&#8217;s encrypted data. A VPN encrypts with 128 bit SSL technology, which is the same kind of strength that is used in encryption credit card transactions online.</p>
<p>Further, when you connect to a proxy, all your traffic is routed through the proxy server. The ISP can see that you are connected to that proxy server, but beyond that, the ISP cannot know anything else because all the data sent from the proxy server to you and vice versa is encrypted. The ISP will only see constant data transfer of encrypted packets of information from your computer to another server, but it will not be able to tell what the data is, unless it resorts to hacking your encrypted packets, which is of course an offence under the Computer Misuse Act.</p>
<p>If you do not use a proxy, all your internet traffic requests, such as requests to visit websites, requests to download are all visible to the ISP. When you use a proxy server, the server executes all the requests on your behalf and sends back the data to your computer with encryption. So, no one will know what websites you are visiting or what you have downloaded unless logs of the proxy servers are obtained. However, it is of course quite hard to enforce a Singapore court order in another country, so if the proxy server is located out of Singapore, one should be safe from the prying eyes of anyone in Singapore.</p>
<p>The tradeoff is that everything slows down somewhat. You will not be able to surf as fast as you normally can because how fast you can surf is dependent on how fast the server can send the data over to you. So you will need a fast and reliable proxy if you want minimal disruptions. Unfortunately, even the fastest servers will yield a drop of about 30% in performance. That&#8217;s the price to pay for privacy.</p>
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