Hear Ye! Hear Ye!

The last entry has drawn a very active discussion on the issue of homosexuality, and WBG, the only anti-gay proponent in the whole wave of comments requested that I write an entry titled “Why be gay?” to balance the previous entry “Why not be gay?” So this is the entry is written to cater to his request.

I’m going to list down all the arguments made by WBG (in various comments on my blog and Kitana’s blog) on why homosexuality is bad/evil/dangerous and do a critical reflection on all of these points. All of his comments will be cut and pasted (in italics) and my thoughts will follow.

“But if there are homosexuals going around town and on the internet promoting homosexuality, my blog will explain my views of how I think it is a psychological problem.

My blog has been around for so long but no one seem to be able to provide a logical explanation as to how it is not a psychological problem that should not be resolved.”

Wait a minute. WBG says his blog explains how HE thinks it’s a psychological problem. So his words carry greater weight than the American Psychiatric Association? The APA has already removed homosexuality from the Diagnostic Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM-IV). Oh wait, hear what WBG has to say about the APA.

“APA is not WPA(World Psychological Association), please read other than research.”

Ok, bad english (or maybe just some typos) aside, WBG contends that the APA is not an authority on psychological issues. The World Psychological Association is. I went to Google, and got nothing. And in anycase, anyone who has studied psychology and psychiatry will know that the APA is THE authority on mental matters. It clearly shows that WBG knows jack about what he’s talking about (hi KTM, borrowing one of your favourite phrase). Now, would anyone believe in his psychological assessment about homosexuality?

Homosexuals are “guilty” until proven “innocent”.

*scratch head* Is he sure he’s living in Singapore? I don’t think this is the standard that we apply in Singapore society.

“If homosexuals want to say that homosexuality is normal, the onus is on them to prove that their behaviour is moral.”

What has homosexuality being normal got to do with being moral? Normal equals to moral? It is probably agreeable to most people that sexual intercourse is normal. Going by WBG’s logic, since sexual intercourse is normal, it doesn’t matter whether you have sexual intercourse with a eight year old or eighty year old; it’s perfectly moral. *scratch head even harder*

“Public decency laws are not exactly held by homosexuals. Examples are homosexual paedophiles who molest kids in public transport and those who go overseas to find children to sleep with. I’m sure you heard the news.”

Only homosexuals behave like that? I think I also read alot of stories about heterosexuals who molest kids in public, rape their own daughter/niece/grand-daughter and go overseas to find girls (not women) to have sex with. Hmmm…..

“There are even homosexuals who harass people in public, a recent example is from this blog, http://tinkertailor.blogsome.com/”

There are alot of Shin Ming and Wan Bao news about jealous wives harassing their husband’s mistresses and angry husbands confronting the secret lovers of their wives. Heterosexuals also harass people. Doesn’t seem very unique to homosexuals.

“My blog is to discourage homosexuals from promoting homosexuality as a healthy way of life without recognising how problematic it is to good normal male relationships.”

Lesbians leh? Even when dealing with homosexuals, there’s a double standard between gays and lesbians? Anyway, promoting heterosexuality as a healthy way of life is also very problematic to good male-female relationships. How many jealous wives/girlfriends/husbands/boyfriends have wrecked the platonic friendships with a member of the opposite gender of their partners? Maybe we should ban heterosexuality too.

“I don’t care what homosexuals do privately but when they started to promote it, and brainwash youths into thinking that homosexuality is a viable way of life, I have to show them my point of view.”

Eh? I don’t see TV ads, bus ads, taxi ads, newspaper ads, MRT ads, bus shelter ads and magazine ads that promote homosexuality. Am I missing something? How come I don’t know homosexuals are launching a massive PR campaign? I do see alot of ads about alcohol and 1900 XXX XXXX chat ads of hot women. I think youths are going to be brainwashed into being alcoholics and phone sex addicts.

“Tell me why homosexual paedophiles should be accepted. They are afterall homosexuals. They do commit crimes but private, does that mean what they do should be condoned and not talked about? “

Tell me why homosexual heterosexual paedophiles should be accepted. They are afterall homosexual heterosexuals. They do commit crimes but private, does that mean what they do should be condoned and not talked about?

“If heterosexuality as Aaron himself said, its neutrality is still being debated, why should it be promoted when there is possibility(as Aaron has mentioned) that it could not be normal?

Well, if the safety of genetically modified food is still being debated, why is GM food allowed to be produced and promoted when there’s a possibility that GM is not normal? Maybe WBG might want to set up whyeatgmfood.blogspot.com

“Therefore if there are homosexual paedophiles and molesters committing their crimes, would it not be logical and intelligent to use these criminal instances as to further discourage the promotion of homosexuality?”

Therefore if there are homosexual heterosexual paedophiles and molesters committing their crimes, would it not be logical and intelligent to use these criminal instances as to further discourage the promotion of homosexuality heterosexuality?

“The neutrality of heterosexuality is not being debated as it is already deem as normal. But heterosexual molest and rape is a perversion of heterosexuality and is condemned. And homosexuality which falls out of a common consensus, its neutrality still being debated, should it not be promoted as normal until there is consensus as Aaron said it should require?”

Refer to the GM food argument above.

“Those who said homosexual sex is normal, please explain why normal people are not doing it. (Again refrain from comparing this to heterosexual sex since the neutrality of heterosexuality is not being debated, even though heterosexuals who do so are not encouraged) I would rather think homosexual (and heterosexual) non-procreative sex is just blind pleasure seeking.”

By homosexual sex, I take it that you mean oral and anal sex. I thought Tammy’s video was a good proof that oral sex is “normal”? As for anal sex, just do a Google on it. Who says heterosexuals are not doing it? I found a nice guide online titled “Anal Sex - How to give women incredible orgasms”.

Ah, now I see something different. WBG is now saying that homosexual and heterosexual NON-PROCREATIVE sex is just blind pleasure seeking. Even pleasure seeking also got problem now. It cannot be blind pleasure seeking. Please stop watching Youtube.

“Why should you encourage people to be homosexual when homosexuality does not have consensus? Are you asking people to commit something society does not agree with?”

I shall repost my original reply to him in the comments thread:

Ok, according to you (WBG), if something is non-consenual cannot be done, that means you support

1. Singapore not having the death penalty
2. Singapore not allowing caning
3. Singaporea banning of abortion and use of condoms.
4. Singapore banning of muslim girls from wearing headscarves.
5. Legalising of heroin sales on the streets

Since people cannot agree on the death penalty, caning, abortion, use of condoms, headscarves, drugs and even $1 brides, let’s forbid people from commiting any of these!!!

“Change doesn’t mean accepting psychological problems as normal. Singapore will never accept homosexuality as long as its people views it as a psychological problem. I don’t need to convince the majority because most Singaporeans already view homosexuality as a psychological problem.”

Who says most Singaporeans view homosexuality at a psychological problem? Another piece of wisdom known only to WBG and not to any other Singaporean? I tried searching singstat.gov but can’t find anything.

“If people want to change the view of homosexuality as a non-problem, they have alot of people to convince. The onus to convince others that homosexuality is a non-problem is not on me or on the majority, but on the minority, people who write blog articles that promotes homosexuality. They have to do the most work in convincing, not me.”

Assuming that he’s in the majority that is. Perhaps he might be in the minority if a statistically valid survey is done (no straw polls of newspapers please). Then he would have to convince the majority.

“Homosexuality should not be promoted because it is a psychological problem.

Refer to my blog for my explanations of why homosexuality is a psychological problem. And give comments if people feel that they can explain it into a non-problem. If homosexuality is a psychological problem then why should a psychological problem be promoted?”

Drinking alcohol should not be promoted because it is a societal problem. It causes one to lose the ability to think properly, have delayed response and is a health hazard. It can cause wife-beating, fatal traffic accidents and liver cirrhosis. Why do I still see beer advertisements promoting the drinking of alcohol?

“It is not drinking a cup of beer that causes one to misbehave but the over drinking of beer.

it is okay for a person to like another same gender person, but to abuse that liking so as to develop perverted physical attraction is a psychological problem that requires counselling.”

Fair enough. So I take it that it is okay for a person to like another different gender person, but to abuse that liking so as to develop peverted physical attraction is a psychological problem that requires conselling as well, no? So what’s with singling out homosexuals if the same problem happens to heterosexuals? Maybe I have to knock my head a few times on the wall.

Coming to the end of it all, I only have one conclusion.

Why not be gay?

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