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Clarification from A*Star over AcidFlask incident
I have received an official clarification from A*Star about the defamatory remarks in the AcidFlask incident in 2005, and I have decided to reproduce their reply below. This is because in this official reply, A*Star has granted permission for the defamatory remarks to be reproduced (under certain conditions), so the issue can now be openly discussed and objectively judged by everyone.
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The Truth about the postings on A*STAR by Chen Jiahao/AcidFlask and those parts of the postings that were defamatory have been reproduced here in the interest of showing the gravity of these untrue allegations and the damage that they had caused to A*STAR, its officers, scholars and partners.
To this day, Chen Jiahao/AcidFlask appears to have taken the position that he was not aware of the defamatory statements made by him, but he nevertheless apologized on 9 May 2005. This was notwithstanding the fact that his attention was specifically drawn to his blog of 3 March 2005 in which the defamatory statements were made, when A*STAR sought from Chen/AcidFlask the retraction and apology.
Contrary to suggestions and reports that the statements complained of by A*STAR pertained to his criticisms of A*STAR’s GPA requirement before its scholars could apply for PhD funding, it is clear from the excerpts published below that the statements were indeed defamatory and went well beyond fair comment.
The defamatory statements made in Chen/AcidFlask’s posting have no basis in fact, are wholly untrue, and completely damaging to the good name, reputation and integrity of not only A*STAR and its officers but also its scholars, the universities attended by our scholars and their faculty members.
A*STAR therefore has no option but to set the record straight.
On the statement that -:
“…a*star feels justified in bribing universities for taking in PhD students.â€
Fact: A*STAR has never offered to pay or actually paid any university bribes or any other form of incentives to admit our scholars. All our scholars gain admission on merit and in accordance with the usual admission requirements applicable to all other applicants who apply to pursue PhD studies at the universities. A*STAR has neither asked for nor have our scholars been offered or given any special dispensations in this regard. Through our scholarships, and like any other scholarship body, we fund the applicable tuition and other compulsory fees charged to the students by the universities. We have no need to offer any bribe – our scholars apply to the best universities and with their outstanding credentials and the strong undergraduate academic performance our scholars are able to gain admission to these universities without special favours. A*STAR’s GPA benchmark ensures that only the best and scholars who show real potential to be able to undertake the rigors of PhD studies are given the privilege (and not an entitlement) of fully funded public scholarships.
On the statement that -:
“…a*star gives out generous funding grants to specific faculty members (to the tune of us$150k/yr or so) for accepting up to three a*star scholars into their labs,…â€
Fact: A*STAR does not provide any such funding grants to overseas based universities, and certainly not as incentives for them to admit our students to their labs for PhD studies. A*STAR funds the local universities and locally based entities under our extra-mural grant programmes but these grants are unrelated to our students and our scholarship programmes.
On the statement that -:
“…giving out gobs of honey to universities who will sign back-door agreements for taking in scholars without going through the formal application procedure.â€
Fact: A*STAR has not signed any agreement with any university to permit our scholars to be admitted without going through the formal application procedure – all our scholars are required to apply to the universities and subject themselves to that university’s usual application procedure. If they are not accepted by a particular university, then they will simply have to gain admission to another through the usual admission process. A*STAR has no “back-door†arrangements with any university nor has A*STAR paid any university in order to by-pass the usual admission criteria required by the university.
On the statement that -:
“A fellow alumna of UIUC once attended a Chemical Engineering class…suddenly the professor remarked: Oh, by the way, if any of you are in need of money, you should consider applying to this agency called A*STAR in Singapore. They offered my $150,000 for my research with no strings attached, plus an extra $35,000 for every one of their students that I accepted into my group.â€
Fact: A*STAR has never offered to or actually funded any professor or research lab in any overseas university. Neither has A*STAR offered professors of universities cash payments to take our scholars into their labs.
On the statement -:
“…that “a certain high-up†in a*star has a tendency to recommend scholars to go to some institutions, like UIUC, U of Wisconsin, and UCSD.. perhaps it is those very schools that a*star has those connections with? and perhaps the reason for asking scholars not to go to the top universities is that they tend to be awfully expensive when it comes to tuition fees too (like Stanford, Harvard, MIT, Princeton).â€
Fact: A*STAR has a list of selected universities. Our scholars are free to choose to go to any of them.
http://www.a-star.edu.sg/astar/studentsandscholarships/action/scholarship_info_grad_biomed.do
http://www.a-star.edu.sg/astar/studentsandscholarships/action/scholarship_info_grad_sciengr.do
The details of the distribution of A*STAR PhD scholars at US universities can be found at our web-site at
http://www.astar.edu.sg/astar/attach/textlet/0e44d2035bWE/(US)NSS(PhD)_Scholars’_Choice_of_Uni_20062007_US.pdf
One only needs to look at the statistics and it will be clear that A*STAR only has 2 scholars at University of Illinois, Urbana-Champaign, 1 at University of Wisconsin-Madison and 3 at University of California at San Diego. On the other hand, A*STAR has 25 PhD scholars at Stanford, 18 at MIT, 5 at Harvard, and 4 at John Hopkins, 2 at Princeton.
The statements made in Chen/AcidFlask’s blog mean or would be understood to mean that A*STAR has acted corruptly in its dealings with universities and that it’s Chairman and officers have procured it to act corruptly or condoned such acts. The statements also cast serious aspersions on our scholars to the effect that they were not admitted to their universities on merit but only because their universities were bribed by A*STAR to do so.
All these allegations are totally false and as a result, A*STAR had no but option to require Chen/AcidFlask to remove these postings and apologise.
A*STAR did not at any time require Chen/AcidFlask to shut down his entire blog-site. We had asked that the offending and defamatory postings in his 3 March 2005 blog be deleted. Chen/AcidFlask chose to shut down his entire blog-site on his own volition. Any imputation that A*STAR had demanded that Chen/AcidFlask shut down his blog is untrue and misleading.
The above clarification is made for the purpose of setting the record straight and because there have been lingering impressions that A*STAR had taken exception to comments about A*STAR’s GPA requirements. This is not the case and serious defamatory statements were made that damaged A*STAR’s good name and reputation. A*STAR has agreed to the disclosure of the defamatory postings for this purpose alone. Any or all of the defamatory postings must not be reproduced except in their entirety and must be accompanied by the whole text of the apology dated 9 May 2005 from Acid Flask as well as the full text of the clarification above. Selective reproduction of any part of the defamatory postings outside of their full context and without the full apology and the above clarification may constitute separate and actionable libel, thereby exposing the person publishing the same to the risk of potential legal action by the person or persons whom may be defamed and suffer damage as a result.
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The Truth about the postings of Chen Jiahao/Acid Flask.
Postings by Chen Jiahao/Acid Flask at http://www.scs.uiuc.edu/~chen6/blog/pivot/entry.php?id=318 (now defunct).
caustic.soda by AcidFlask
liminal musings of a graduate student
this is “a*star in parliament†by AcidFlask at 03 03 05 – 13:03. please leave a comment.
a*star in parliament
-03 03 05 – 13:03
Science, Singapore
which is perhaps why a*star feels justified in bribing universities for taking in PhD students. staggeringly enough, the cost quoted is very likely to be grossly understated, since I have been told that a*star gives out generous funding grants to specific faculty members (to the tune of us$150k/yr or so) for accepting up to three a*star scholars into their lab, as well as giving out gobs of honey to universities who will sign back-door agreements for taking in scholars without going through the formal application procedure. to the cash-strapped universities in America, the unbelievable godsend that visiting a*star contingents herald is something they can’t get enough of/f. after all, who else would be so incredibly naive and stupid as to throw money at other people instead of investing money to fund their own local research and developing their own r&d communities?
to quote a certain high-up in a*star: “if you don’t like it, then leave!†which perhaps explains the quiet turnover of more than one a*star scholar within the last twelve months. but at last, perhaps quiet no longer.
I would gladly do so, except that my sources are very likely to suffer the kind of spiteful retributive backlash that characterizes the public service. Therefore they can only remain hearsay and rumour under the current circumstances.
[AcidFlask] (email) (link) – 03 03 05 – 17:39
Lest I set myself up for libel, let me state what I know about this.
I do not recall the exact sums involved but this is the gist of what I had been told.
A fellow alumna of UIUC once attended a Chemical Engineering class in this university sometime in 2003. The subject of the lecture somehow went on to funding crunches faced by researchers in the US due to post-9/11 budget cuts when suddenly the professor remarked: Oh, by the way, if any of you are in need of money, you should consider applying to this agency called A*STAR in Singapore. They offered me $150,000 for my research with no strings attached, plus an extra $35,000 for every one of their students that I accepted into my group. Singapore seems to be a very rich country; they have money to throw at you, all you have to do is ask for it!
[AcidFlask] (email) (link) – 03 03 05 – 20:30
going further down the list.. a*star scholars seem to know that “a certain high-up†in a*star has a tendency to recommend scholars to go to some institutions, like UIUC, U of Wisconsin, and UCSD.. perhaps it is those very schools that a*star has those connections with? and perhaps the reason for asking scholars not to go to the top universities is that they tend to be awfully expensive when it comes to tuition fees too (like Stanford, Harvard, MIT, Princeton).
[AcidFlask] ( email) (link) – 04 03 05 – 11:30
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Mon 9th May 2005
http://www.scs.uiuc.edu/~chen6/blog/
APOLOGY
I recognize and accept that a number of statements that I made on my on-line journal “Caustic Sodaâ€, in particular the blog post of 3 March 2005, were defamatory of A*STAR, its Chairman, Mr. Philip Yeo and its executive officers.
I admit and acknowledge that these statements are false and completely without any foundation.
I unreservedly apologize to A*STAR, its Chairman Mr. Philip Yeo, and its executive officers for the distress and embarrassment caused to them by these statements.
I undertake not to repeat the statements, or make further statements of the same or similar effect in this or any other forum or media. I further undertake to remove any such posting anywhere that has not been deleted.
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about 4 years ago
Dee,
I offered him one to one quiet tea at UIUC to hear him out and give him my point of view.
Instead he wanted to interrogate me with a third party in attendance!
And he blogs on my name at Wikipedia giving the impression that he is an innocent babe forced to close his Acidflask blog.
So summer must continue
Until he takes off his smearing marks.
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Sir, it has been two years since this conflict is raging between you and Chen Jiahao, and I believe every Winter must end with the coming of spring. Perhaps, a time for an olive branch of peace?
about 4 years ago
In 1993, when Sir Richard Sykes was CEO, Glaxo and I was Chm, EDB (1986 to 2000), we both co-funded the setting up of the Centre for Natural Products Research (CNPR) in the IMCB (www.imcb.a-star.edu.sg)
Tony Buss was loaned from Glaxo, UK to IMCB as Director, CNPR.
In 2002, we privatized the CNPR as Merlin Pharma with Tony Buss as CEO.
Two years ago, Sir Richard Sykes, Rector of Imperial College most kindly agreed to be Chairman, Merlion.
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I thought Merlion Pharmaceuticals was a brainchild of EDB. Oh yeah, before I forgot, you were formerly from EDB. Oh BTW, I would be hopping by Merlion Pharmaceuticals soonish.
about 4 years ago
Dear Mr Philip Yeo:
If that’s the case, I guess it isn’t appropriate for an interrogative meeting with a third party in attendence. Not a proper protocol.
I too was on the receiving end of such a treatment. In the past, there was some unhappiness on the part of a female counterpart with me. I offered a one to one, heart to heart talk. It ended up that she insisted on having another female companion to tag along. Thus, what happened? I got pummelled. Hence, Sir, I understand perfectly how you would have felt.
Going through National Service, I was imbued with a all-guys-have-conflicts-thrash-it-out-one-to-one value. I agree that it’s improper to send a third party because it would be overwhelmingly uncomfortable for the lonely chap.
BTW, which Wiki page is being edited? Yours or AcidFlask? There is a wikipage for AcidFlask as there is for yours.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_Yeo
Yours sincerely,
Dr Dee
about 4 years ago
I am in the opinion that Mr Yeo is not a very gracious person himself, judging from his choice of words and comparisons of people to toads, frogs and wimps.
I shudder to think that if all highly educated, elite Singaporean leaders hold such attitudes… what will our country become?
Now, tell me… is a good scientist supposed to make conjectures based on weak reasoning like below?
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In May 2005, the controversy of A*STAR bond-breakers was revived when The New Paper published an article about him writing in his book that men in Singapore even when serving National Service (NS) were wimps, whiny, and immature. The reason Yeo gave was that all bond-breakers since early 90s were Singapore men. The anger was further fuelled when a female A*STAR scholar, Chng Zhenzhi, backed his statements and openly declared that Singapore men were fine until “(once) they enter NS, they complain a lot.”
… Yeo calling e pur si muove “an obnoxious smelling swamp full of envious, fouled mouthed small toads” and referring to the commenters who had engaged him as “green eyed toads”.
about 4 years ago
Why are anonymous blogs sad? Why is there a need to remain anonymous?
http://www.opennetinitiative.net/studies/singapore/
about 4 years ago
Dear Mr Philip Yeo:
On the issue of blogging anonymous on my part, you can access my reply at my blog.
http://socrates-reincarnated.blogspot.com/2007/03/exchange-with-mr-philip-yeo-part-2-on.html
Have a nice weekend ahead.
Yours sincerely,
Dr Dee
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In this blog, you know who is the blogger.
Almost all blogs are sadly anonymous.
Like yours too. Sad.
about 4 years ago
“Why are anonymous blogs sad? Why is there a need to remain anonymous?”
Agreeable.
“I am in the opinion that Mr Yeo is not a very gracious person himself, judging from his choice of words and comparisons of people to toads, frogs and wimps. ”
I agree with the not gracious part. But nevertheless, Mr Yeo was provoked initially and he was just expressing his opinions. Then again, i call it freedom of speech. I just feel that we don’t have to be so sad, so that a moderately educated national like me can express my views freely. No grudges.. just comments.
have a good weekend all.
about 4 years ago
ain’t no word called “irregardless”.
Question posed by the said philip yeo on why do we think acidflask apologised and shut down his blog.
The answer is simple: Your pockets are deeper than his.
Regards.
about 4 years ago
Dear Mr Philip Yeo,
It is very refreshing for a high ranking official like you to pop over into the blogosphere to give us (the netizens) clarified viewpoints on various A*STAR-related issues. I do hope you would not stop doing that in the near future!
While I applaud A*STAR’s efforts in picking the best of the best from the youth of Singapore to send them out for education, I am a little disappointed over the whole “the law is the law” stand from your organisation. Let me illustrate this with a story….
I have a good friend who’s also studying with me in Australia. He did not get stellar academic results (only 3.4 /4.0 GPA), but he took on challenging modules (where other students try to evade) and completed his 3-year Bachelor’s studies in 2.5years. His research on adult stem cells have gained him a 1st authorship paper at a major international conference, far being the youngest to do at the age of 19.
My friend had just returned from the interviews at the International PhD Programme at the European Molecular Biology Laboratories at Heidelberg, Germany (I’m sure that you, Sir, would have heard of EMBL). Although not picked to receive the EMBL-funded predoctoral fellowship, he has by far became the 1st Singaporean ever to qualify for the EMBL PhD programme and also the youngest amongst all applicants to do so (at the age of 19). Also, there were group leaders there who would still take him on provided he self-fund his studies, but he told me that A*STAR would not support his studies as
1. EMBL is not a university, hence it’s not even on the list of A*STAR, and
2. His academic results are not good enough for A*STAR’s requirements
As a result, my friend is most probably going to miss out on EMBL (which according to him, will be a chance of a lifetime, as no one has gone back for a 2nd interview before) unless some sort of financial miracle happens (are you noticing, Mr Yeo? Haha).
So maybe if A*STAR would want to maximise their efforts of nurturing the scientific talents of tomorrow, would it be possible that the organisation would try to put more emphasis on the ability to carry out research, rather than hitting the perfect GPA? Afterall, it is quite common among professors in Australia to NOT take on students with near-perfect GPAs as they would fare worse in the research environment.
Looking forward to hearing from you.
Yours Sincerely,
Alvin
about 4 years ago
Dear Alvin,
Thank you for your views.
I have been to EMBL.
A*STAR perfers to fund and nurture our best and brightest A level applicants all the way from BS to PhD studies provided they meet out GPA threshold.
Freedom of choice not to apply.
As your friend is able to finance his studies in Australia, he is free to seek out other funding organizations.
philip
about 4 years ago
Dear Mr Philip Yeo,
I hope you mean the “finance his studies in Australia” part doesn’t include “taking out a bank loan for his entire education expenses”, because that is what my friend has been doing for the past years.
It is a great thing that A*STAR are selecting the best A level students, but has the organisation looked into funding/nurturing graduates from polytechnics and even students who have qualifed for University through other means? Sir, these applicants deserve a fair go at opportunities bestowed by your organisation!
Yours Sincerely,
Alvin
about 4 years ago
Dee,
http://app.sprinter.gov.sg/data/pr/20061222999.htm
From the above you can see my role as Senior Advisor for Science & Technology (S&T) to the Minister of Trade and Industry.
I am confident that my younger successor Lim Chuan Poh (ex-Mindef like me) who is ably assisted by Deputy Chairman, Prof. Dr Tan Chorh Chuan will be able to carry on and build upon my basement and ground level work of the Feb 2001 to March 2007 period. They know that I have set high standards for them to maintain.
Each senior government officer has his/her own capability.
I am neither civil nor a servant.
I am not indispensable but irreplaceable.
We cannot clone ourselves yet.
I stayed on and worked for the Singapore government because I had Dr Goh Keng Swee as a great role model. Every time that I was fully tempted to leave for greener pastures, he will call me up for free lunch and load me up with more work to distract me.
I could not desert a man who have worked selflessly and have laid the foundation for the Singapore economy that we have today.
philip
Last but not least, will you still be overseeing Biomedical Science initiative in Singapore even after you step down from A*STAR? I have to admit, notwithstanding our disagreements on GPA criteria amongst other things, I find that your conviction in blowing away red tapes resulting in an expedient process of administration commendable, and you have every reason to be proud of it. Dr Goh Keng Swee was your mentor, but do you have any disciples for you to impart your skills to? Civil servants willing to do away with red tapes in order to expedite the process are becoming a rare breed..
about 4 years ago
Alvin,
Take a look at:
http://www.a-star.edu.sg/astar/studentsandscholarships/action/scholarship_AGS.do
Here a UK Second Class honours or a US GPA of above 3.6 but less than 3.8 is the requirement.
about 4 years ago
On hindsight, I’d rather all these info to come out two years ago and have some healthy discussion.
sometimes freedom of expression helps in the discovery of truth, isn’t it?
why? why 2 years late?
about 4 years ago
Dear Alvin:
Allow me to offer congratulations to your friend. A 3.4 GPA in the context of a challenging curriculum is an excellent result. Admission committees to universities in the US recalculate GPA and when they level everything out, a 3.4 GPA in the context of a challenging course load can be recalculated to a 4.0 GPA. Just google for the terms “GPA recalculation”.
Perhaps, it’s a matter of serendipity that your friend has chosen Germany as the destination for his postgraduate studies. The best move for your friend would be to get in touch with prospective principal investigators in Germany. I understand that academic institutions in Germany award financial stipends for postgraduate research. The reason why your friend missed out on EMBL funding may be due to the limited funds of EMBL. A number of my friends with not-so-stellar academic results are also targeting Germany as the destination for postgraduate studies. Hence, they are scouring through the various German academic institutions’ websites looking for prospective supervisors. I have a friend who got a second lower honors who managed to make contact with a prospective principal investigator. I also know of people with not so stellar academic results ending up in top notch research institutions like the Max Planck Institute. However, your friend must be prepared to consider other institutions in Germany other than EMBL. There are a number of academic institutions, but I would advise your friend not to select universities based on prestige, but rather look for principal investigators with a good track record in the area of his research, and lastly, a similar research interest. Heidelberg University is the British equivalent of Oxford and Cambridge, just in case if you are not aware of it. Prior to world war II, the British and Germans entered into a pact not to bomb prestigious institutions in both countries. The Germans agreed to avoid bombing Oxford and Cambridge, whilst the British agreed to abstain from bombing Heidelberg.
Yours sincerely,
Dr Dee
about 4 years ago
Dee is right.
EMBL is funded by the EU countries.
It gives priority for funding to EU students.
Max Planck is well funded by the German Govt.
Alvin’s friend should give it a try
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I also know of people with not so stellar academic results ending up in top notch research institutions like the Max Planck Institute. However, your friend must be prepared to consider other institutions in Germany other than EMBL.
about 4 years ago
Since 2001/2002, all these info have been on the scholarship part of the A*STAR website http://www.a-star.edu.sg.
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truthrocks SINGAPORE // Mar 16, 2007 at 11:53 pm
On hindsight, I’d rather all these info to come out two years ago and have some healthy discussion.
sometimes freedom of expression helps in the discovery of truth, isn’t it?
why? why 2 years late?
about 4 years ago
Dear Mr Philip Yeo:
I agree Dr Goh Keng Swee is really up there with the stars. He brought economic theory from textbook into real life practice. I am proud to have come from his alma mater.
I assumed SIA would be one of your eventual destinations because reading the transcript of your farewell speech, you were supposed to go to SIA, but you were needed at EDB. In fact, a few observers and I thought you would eventually move on to SIA after the delays and stepping down from A*STAR. Wasn’t it your mentor who wanted you to go to SIA? Correct me if I have written any piece of misinformation so far. Is helming SIA a future plan beyond your next tenure as Science and Technology senior advisor and head of SPRING?
Yours sincerely,
Dr Dee
about 4 years ago
Dear Mr Philip Yeo:
I cannot help but notice an interesting pattern pertaining to the appointment of head honchos to spearhead education and research in Singapore. There is this MINDEF connection.
If I did not read wrongly, you were formerly from MINDEF. Your successor was also a former Chief of Defense. The ex and current minister and minister of state for education was also from MINDEF (Rear ADMs Teo Chee Hean and Lui Tuck Yew). Is there a prevalent thinking in civil service that the Defense people are the ones to be able to effectively command and drive the organization forward, and get things done quickly?
Yours sincerely,
Dr Dee
about 4 years ago
Sorry I wasn’t clear in my previous comment.
I meant the rebuttals to acidflask’s statements should be made available earlier.
it was so easy to side with the poor blogger and vilify the big guy.
Without knowing what’s going on.
Not that I’m convinced that Acidflask is wrong and you are right already, but the information would have given much more perspective.
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Since 2001/2002, all these info have been on the scholarship part of the A*STAR website http://www.a-star.edu.sg.
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truthrocks SINGAPORE // Mar 16, 2007 at 11:53 pm
On hindsight, I’d rather all these info to come out two years ago and have some healthy discussion.
sometimes freedom of expression helps in the discovery of truth, isn’t it?
why? why 2 years late?
about 4 years ago
Dee,
I was merely relating the old 1985 SIA matter as a joke.
I had been in Mindef from June 1970 to Dec 1985 ~~ well past my 10 years of bond.
SIA is running well today. In 1985, Dr. Goh Keng Swee thought otherwise of SIA.
He really wanted me to go there to fix it as he said. Hard to say NO to Dr. Goh KS.
Even when I was at Harvard Biz school in1974-76, Dr. Goh KS would ask my Perm Sec(Defence) to write to me to come back to Mindef and not waste my time in Boston!
When I returned home in May 1976 and went to see him in his office, he went to his big cupboard and personally carried out 10 heavy project files saying: I have kept these for you for the last two years!
He would NOT give these projects to anyone else. I was determined to “do it” in 2 years to “get rid” of them.
With only 7 years service, not counting the 2 years at Harvard, he made up for the project workload torture by promoting me to Perm Sec (Defence Technology) at age of 32 plus years old in Sept 1979.
I could not “morally” run away to greener private pastures.
Dr Goh always knew whenever I was restless. He would ask: Are you bored?
Then he would send more work to me! He said: No one dies of overwork. One dies of boredom.
He used to challenge my Mindef engineers and I why we could NOT design and make this or that weapon.
Being proud scholar engineers, we would really be hot and angry around our collars.
We would then work our butts off to prove him wrong.
And when we did it, he will chuckle and congratulate us.
The satisfaction that we proved him wrong again was our reward.
(Recently, some ignorant young “toady” blogger wrongly called me a iron rice bowled paper pusher!).
I learned the Power of Ridicule from Dr. Goh KS and used it “well” with my chaps too.
I have no shortage of private offers.
But I think I owe my 2 kids some time with them.
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I assumed SIA would be one of your eventual destinations because reading the transcript of your farewell speech, you were supposed to go to SIA, but you were needed at EDB. In fact, a few observers and I thought you would eventually move on to SIA after the delays and stepping down from A*STAR. Wasn’t it your mentor who wanted you to go to SIA? Correct me if I have written any piece of misinformation so far. Is helming SIA a future plan beyond your next tenure as Science and Technology senior advisor and head of SPRING?
about 4 years ago
You are right.
Our two external lawyers gave us wrong advice. Must claim back our expenses.
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truthrocks SINGAPORE // Mar 17, 2007 at 12:41 am
Sorry I wasn’t clear in my previous comment.
I meant the rebuttals to acidflask’s statements should be made available earlier.
it was so easy to side with the poor blogger and vilify the big guy.
Without knowing what’s going on.
Not that I’m convinced that Acidflask is wrong and you are right already, but the information would have given much more perspective.
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about 4 years ago
Dee,
Mindef chaps are not paper pushers. Ha!
philip
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Dr Dee SINGAPORE // Mar 17, 2007 at 12:30 am
Dear Mr Philip Yeo:
I cannot help but notice an interesting pattern pertaining to the appointment of head honchos to spearhead education and research in Singapore. There is this MINDEF connection.
If I did not read wrongly, you were formerly from MINDEF. Your successor was also a former Chief of Defense. The ex and current minister and minister of state for education was also from MINDEF (Rear ADMs Teo Chee Hean and Lui Tuck Yew). Is there a prevalent thinking in civil service that the Defense people are the ones to be able to effectively command and drive the organization forward, and get things done quickly?
about 4 years ago
Dr Goh KS autographed 3 of his economic books and gave them to me.
I have yet to find time to read them! Oops!
I usually read science and technology books and ancient history.
Whenever I need help on economic matters, I used to go to Dr. Goh KS for free advice.
No need to read econ books . Ha!
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I agree Dr Goh Keng Swee is really up there with the stars. He brought economic theory from textbook into real life practice. I am proud to have come from his alma mater.
about 4 years ago
Dee,
Appreciate your points.
There are nasty people in the blogs.
Otherwise called “rude and noisy toads”. Ha!
Have a good weekend.
Off overseas tomorrow.
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On the issue of blogging anonymous on my part, you can access my reply at my blog.
http://socrates-reincarnated.blogspot.com/2007/03/exchange-with-mr-philip-yeo-part-2-on.html
Have a nice weekend ahead.
Yours sincerely,
Dr Dee
about 4 years ago
Dear Mr Philip Yeo:
You mentioned that you love Ancient history? Which flavor may I enquire? Science and technological aspects of ancient history? Military aspects of ancient history, e.g. Admiral Zheng He, Genghis Khan, etc?
Yours sincerely,
Dr Dee
about 4 years ago
Dear Mr Philip Yeo:
Thanks for your detailed account of your experience with Dr Goh. It really opened my eyes into an unknown side of Dr Goh, the human side of him and his management style.
Probably, Dr Goh must have read the Sun Tzu Art of War for managers. You mentioned that you learnt well from him. Are you a fan of Sun Tzu as well? After all, it’s the military flavor of ancient history.
Yours sincerely,
Dr Dee
about 4 years ago
Dear PY,
Perhaps this incident could be a reflection point for future libel case within the government agency (and private sector alike).
Without revealing the notes as shown here, it is easy to jump into conclusion and side with the small guy instead. The fact is the general public (online or offline) are more emotion than rational.
The subsequent actions taken should also take into consideration of the potential PR impact, not just from the legal perspective. A mentor once said to me that “Lawyers don’t make decision for you”. They give you the advices but you make the final call.
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You are right.
Our two external lawyers gave us wrong advice. Must claim back our expenses.
about 4 years ago
I guess it should always be noted and remembered that it is normal and common human nature for us to side with the ‘underdog’. Most of us do not have the fortune to be ‘big-honchos’ and thus tend to empathise with the same people – folks like ourselves. Especially during the event, it looked as though the ‘big-honchos’, with guns blazing, were going at the scholar (who was just a kid) with all the corporate might, it easily created an impression that AcidFlask was being ‘bullied’.
In retrospect, not only should the incident be managed by the legal front, the PR impact should have been delicately handled too.
Well, that’s why people say, hindsight is always 20/20! Let’s learn from this experience and big corporations, especially from public sectors, should be mindful of its PR image and strive to communicate with the citizens, if we really want to fulfill the dream of – One People, One Nation, One Singapore.
about 4 years ago
Dear Mr Philip Yeo:
I can see your selfless dedication to your work, that even your kids mentioned that they missed you. Will you be having more family time considering your present appointment at SPRING, as Science and Technology Advisor and economic advisor?
I don’t know but I think when a chap reaches your age, he would be spending time with his children and playing with his grandchildren…. Family time is important, and is a source of joy that one shouldn’t miss out on…..
Yours sincerely,
Dr Dee
about 4 years ago
Dee,
Dr. Goh read and lectured on military history to our senior officers. His library was a great collection of books.
I was only interested in the weapon developments. My collection were weapons.
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Probably, Dr Goh must have read the Sun Tzu Art of War for managers.
You mentioned that you learnt well from him.
Are you a fan of Sun Tzu as well? After all, it’s the military flavor of ancient history.
about 4 years ago
I am afraid that grandchildren supply will be still a long way to go.
My kids are too busy. One slaving away on research. The other still in college.
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I don’t know but I think when a chap reaches your age, he would be spending time with his children and playing with his grandchildren…. Family time is important, and is a source of joy that one shouldn’t miss out on…..
about 4 years ago
Our PR is weak.
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In retrospect, not only should the incident be managed by the legal front, the PR impact should have been delicately handled too.
about 4 years ago
European and Middle East History from 500 BC.
Have a good collection from Darius I, Alexander, the Greek Wars, Genghis Khan etc etc.
Now reading a good book: The Great War for Civilisation by Robert Frisk, a journalist.
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You mentioned that you love Ancient history? Which flavor may I enquire? Science and technological aspects of ancient history? Military aspects of ancient history, e.g. Admiral Zheng He, Genghis Khan, etc?
about 4 years ago
Dear Mr Philip Yeo:
There was a National Geographic segment on Genghis Khan and his armies. There was an archaelogical discovery of an “artillery shell” used during by the Mongolian army. Speaks volumes of the primitive development of artillery technology during the ancient times. Actually, Genghis’ success was also due to his talents as an administrator. He co-opted brilliant generals into his ranks, and also managed to successfully rule his conquered territories by brilliant administration.
Speaking of European military history, there was also the development of siege weaponry, like the trebuchet, the ancestors of modern day artillery.
May I enquire which weapon that is developed during the ancient times do you really fancy?
Yours sincerely,
Dr Dee
about 4 years ago
Dear Mr Philip Yeo:
I read that your children are overseas. Are you a fan of SKYPE? It’s quite popular nowadays, a cheaper alternative than overseas calls, allowing relatives based in different countries to communicate.
Yours sincerely,
Dr Dee
about 4 years ago
Dee,
I chat with them regularly on AIM as matter of habit although we have do use Skype sometimes.
Boston and La Jolla, three US hours apart.
philip
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I read that your children are overseas. Are you a fan of SKYPE? It’s quite popular nowadays, a cheaper alternative than overseas calls, allowing relatives based in different countries to communicate.
about 4 years ago
That was a great article!
Genghis Khaw chose the best and bravest leaders from ALL levels of society.
Not the traditional selection from the noble families.
Just as I chose bright and HUNGRY scholars for A*STAR.
Over 70 % of them from HDB homes.
No sons and daughters of the rich and famous etc etc.
The trebuchet changed siege warfare.
The movie “Kingdom of Heaven” (Crusaders) showed some trebuchet-looking siege weapons.
The Mongols made Chinese slave engineers build the best trebuchet.
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There was a National Geographic segment on Genghis Khan and his armies.
about 4 years ago
I started the design and development of the Singapore 155 mm artillery guns when I was in Mindef till 1985 and built them when I led the Singapore Technologies group from 1987 to 1994 even when I was Chairman, EDB from 1986.
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the ancestors of modern day artillery.
about 4 years ago
Dear Mr Philip Yeo:
Isn’t the book by Robert Frisk about contemporary warfare in the Middle East?
http://www.robert-fisk.com/book_extracts_serial1.htm
Actually I am the of the opinion that the most important impetus for war nowadays is the black gold – oil. I mean there are OPEC members in the Middle East. Oil is predominatly traded in US dollars, little wonder that Uncle Sam is interested in Middle Eastern affairs and can afford to print Greenbacks. However, that will all change when OPEC countries choose to trade in EUROs.
http://www.chewinthefat.com/artman/publish/article_381.shtml
I always thought that the war in the Middle East is akin to a monkey representing the Middle East being crushed between two titans, the US dollar VS EUROs. Saddam Hussein sold his oil in EUROs as is the intention of the Iranian government. Wait, isn’t Iran next on the hitlist?
http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/CLA410A.html
Yours sincerely,
Dr Dee
about 4 years ago
Dear Mr Philip Yeo:
The Chinese siege weapon technology was pretty advanced, which the Mongolians harnessed to their benefit. Their catapults had fanciful names like whirlwind catapults or crouching tiger catapults.
Are you a fan of weapons of stealth? There was a National Geographic segment on Chinese weapons of stealth, where weapons that are capable firing projectiles are disguised as ordinary items. In modern warfare, useful weapons used by infiltration cum stealth units are the Unmanned Aerial Vehicle. The Israeli Defense Force developed the UAV technology to the full potential. UAV technology is even harnessed by the IDF’s special forces unit, Sayeret Matkal, the Israeli equivalent of the British Special Air Services commandoes. Probably UAV will come in useful for our special operations force too.
Yours sincerely,
Dr Dee
about 4 years ago
a friend sent me the link to this page.
mr philip yeo,
you so cute ahhhhh.
cheers.
about 4 years ago
Dear Mr Philip Yeo:
Since you are engineer by training, do you happen to be an IES (Institution of Engineers, Singapore) fellow? I understand that IES organized a trip to Cambodia some time ago. It’s a coincidence that you are currently in Cambodia.
Yours sincerely,
Dr Dee
about 4 years ago
The IES made me a Fellow many moons ago.
Did BS (Industrial Engg) 1970 at U of Toronto on a Canadian Govt Colombo Plan scholarship
2 years MS (Systems Engg) 1974 at U of Singapore.
Offered a U of Spore scholarship to do a overseas PhD in Industrial Engg but I turned it down as it would add another 5 years to my bond period.
Went off to Harvard U for the 2 years MBA in 1974 under the US Govt Fulbright scholarship.
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Dear Mr Philip Yeo:
Since you are engineer by training, do you happen to be an IES (Institution of Engineers, Singapore) fellow? I understand that IES organized a trip to Cambodia some time ago. It’s a coincidence that you are currently in Cambodia.
about 4 years ago
At Angkor Wat with my two Deputy Chairmen, the MD, A*STAR and the many Whales and senior A*STAR staff.
Working. Not on holiday.
about 4 years ago
First time someone thinks that I am cute and not a terror.
Must be getting “soft” with age.:-D
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toast SINGAPORE // Mar 18, 2007 at 8:14 am
a friend sent me the link to this page.
mr philip yeo,
you so cute ahhhhh.
cheers.
about 4 years ago
Dear Mr Philip Yeo:
Isn’t the Colombo Plan scholarship a predecessor of the modern day Public Service Commission scholarship?
http://app.psc.gov.sg/scholarships/html/scholarships_history.asp
Wasn’t it because of Singapore’s stoppage from receiving Colombo Plan scholarship awards in 1988 that the Colombo Plan scholarship is no longer in existence in Singapore.
At least, scholarship awardees of the Colombo Plan and PSC scholarships are required to serve their bond in administrative service. That’s what they both have in common.
Yours sincerely,
Dr Dee
about 4 years ago
Dear Mr Philip Yeo:
I guess that is hecause you are posting personal accounts in the commentary section of this blog, about your family, your relationship with Dr Goh, etc, which shows the human side of your nature, hence, bloggers think you are cute. That is commendable on your part because it allows bloggers to warm up to you.
Ever thought of writing an autobiography of yourself. Memoirs of Mr Philip Yeo perhaps? I am sure members of the public would like to read some of the colorful snippets of your life. Your relationship with Dr Goh, the behind-the-scenes in your showdown with MP Chng Hee Kok that the public doesn’t know, your family, the Mindef years, the EDB years, the NCB years, the A*STAR years, etc.
Yours sincerely,
Dr Dee
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philip yeo // Mar 18, 2007 at 8:21 pm
First time someone thinks that I am cute and not a terror.
about 4 years ago
Yet 10 years of bond though Singapore paid nothing. :’(
Had to serve in the Spore Admin Service (1970 to 1999) though I was an engineer by training and at real work.
Never pushed any papers. Pushed weapons design and production in Mindef and from 1986 industrial development at EDB. A*STAR from 2001.
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Isn’t the Colombo Plan scholarship a predecessor of the modern day Public Service Commission scholarship?
http://app.psc.gov.sg/scholarships/html/scholarships_history.asp
Wasn’t it because of Singapore’s stoppage from receiving Colombo Plan scholarship awards in 1988 that the Colombo Plan scholarship is no longer in existence in Singapore.
At least, scholarship awardees of the Colombo Plan and PSC scholarships are required to serve their bond in administrative service. That’s what they both have in common.
about 4 years ago
Too lazy to do this.:-D
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Ever thought of writing an autobiography of yourself.