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“Coerced” annuity and possibly lesser returns on CPF
The decision to make some form of annuity compulsory has certainly resulted a feeling of coercion among some Singaporeans. After all, once the amount is paid out, if you happen to pass on before the age of 85, your family doesn’t get anything back in return. It goes back into the pool to help other Singaporeans who are live beyond 85.
In theory, annuity is probably a good thing, but I’m not so sure about annuity that’s “forced” onto people. It seems like a pretty blunt instrument, at least to me, by implementing it across the board. I think we need more data to understand what is the projected number of people who are likely not to have enough for retirement and how much are people expected to set aside to pay for the annuity. The phrase “only a small part” doesn’t quite cut it for me. My concern is that we might actually be attempting for a solution to a problem that will not affect many people, although when it does affect some people, they usually become headline news. I think more numbers are necessary to convince people that a compulsory annuity is indeed necessary. Otherwise, I still think it’s better for the individual to have the annuity to be voluntary, although it will not be in the interest of the government, considering that they, instead of whoever is underwriting the annuity, have to fork out money to keep those whose CPF minimum sum have run out alive.
While the government has decided to increase the CPF OA interest rate by 1 percent, interest rate for the Special Account is going to be pegged to long term bond rates. I don’t have a problem with the theory that in the long term, the rate of return is likely to be higher. However, the question is, what bonds will the rate be pegged to? If it’s Singapore government bonds, I think we are going to get lower returns instead of higher returns. Looking at the nominal rates of returns of Singapore government bonds at Fundsupermart, the long term bonds almost all give a return of less than 4%. Add in the impact of inflation and the actual yield is going to be much lower. Looking at the US Government bonds on Bloomberg.com, the yields on their long term bonds are all above 4%, hitting almost 5% for a 30 year bond.
At the end of the day, whether the SA earns higher interest depends on what bonds the government chooses to peg the rates to. Also, there lies the question of what are the conditions which the peg is allowed to change. If it’s relatively easy to change the peg, therein lies the possibility of enjoying better returns when the opportunity arises, but there is also the risk of lower returns if the government wants to reduce its financial liability. So, at the end of the day, it all boils down to whether the government genuinely cares about Singaporeans.
I can accept that no financial institution gives a guaranteed 4% interest rate year after year because it is just plain stupid for a profit seeking organisation to do that. However, I don’t like the government to invoke private, profit seeking institutions in making their case to change the CPF SA interest rate from a fixed one to a variable one. A government is not a private company, so stop comparing to profit seeking financial institutions. The whole Singapore Inc bullshit is being taken a little too far for my liking. Singapore is a country, not another Stanchart or Goldman Sachs.
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about 4 years ago
Hey – this chap is good!
http://www.myapplemenu.com/singapore/2007/08/22/id0018/
about 4 years ago
Agreed. Good to see that I’m not the only one uncomfortable with the word “compulsory” coming from the government. I have my thoughts on this as well and the rest of his speech.
http://minorepiphany.blogspot.com/2007/08/my-thoughts-on-national-day-rally.html
about 4 years ago
The Prince, acting in the capacity as the Emperor, with the strong backing of the semi-retired Emperor, has decreed that the poor shall help the poor; not the rich to help the poor. He is right. No countries in the world has ever decreed that the rich should help the poor.
The rich are rich because they are either very clever, very shrewd, very cunning, very well connected, very hardworking or very lucky. The poor are poor because they are either stupid, without wit, without connections, lonely, lazy or very unlucky. So, why should the rich help the poor? Remember, welfare is a dirty word?
In the history of mankind, the rich who build factories and employ the poor to work for them in order to produce things that can make great profits for the rich, had, have and will be exploiting the poor to get them to make money for the bosses. And the clever govt people say that the rich are providing employment to the poor. Who is actually the ones who are benefiting? Who become rich and who become poor?
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The money from the annuity would be siphoned out from your CPF when you reach the age of 55. It would then be held by the insurer, most probably NTUC Income or its affiliates, or one of the major banks and insurance companies under the control Temasek Holdings, for them to use as they please, for the next 30 years, i.e. until you reach the age of 85.
You can only withdraw the money from the age of 85. If you die at the age of 84, you get nothing. If you die at the age of 86, you get one year worth of peas or sesame seeds (peanuts are worth $600,000 per annum according to Mrs Goh Chok Tong’s standard).
If you draw out the money from your CPF and put it into a bank as fixed deposit with interests compounded for 30 years, no matter when you die, the money can go to your own beneficiaries, not in the coffer of either NTUC Income or Temasek Holdings. Plus you have the flexibility to withdraw the money to help tie you over if you get into a desperation situation.
Many issues that argued for the benefit of the people, ultimately turned out to be for the benefit of certain organisations. Think about it.
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There are many more things I want to say but rather not say.
about 4 years ago
I think our whole social security system is getting too complicated and screwed up… first CPF draw down age increase then now compulsory anuity…
Like what others have said, all these really don’t really benefit the poor at all…
Personally, higher tax for higher income earners is the way to go…
about 4 years ago
Agreed!!!! Thank you arron for pointing it out. Singapore is a country, and the government is suppose to do its job of governing a country NOT a Singapore Inc!
about 4 years ago
http://mycpf.cpf.gov.sg/NR/rdonlyres/3D63186C-3DD5-4D5A-8F81-7AA20A921618/0/cpfLogo.jpeg
If CPF can provide for retirement, stop the forced annuity crap.
If CPF cannot provide for retirement, stop the misleading, deceptive advertising depicted in the linked image above.
P.S: My determination to give up my pink IC in the near future has just shot up. Off the scale. At the very least, I do not wish to retire in Singapore. The island’s not conducive at all for the golden years.
about 4 years ago
Actually I think Singapore is the best place to spend your golden years. It is just however not the best place to make money or work. A big part of your savings are locked up on the assumption that you cannot manage it well. Make your fortunes elsewhere and open bank accounts elsewhere. When you make enough, return to Singapore and spend your hard earned money without any strings attached.
about 4 years ago
I mean the way singapore works is that it starts with things being compulsory and ends with them being an obligation…so no surprises here. Does get a wee bit annoying to know that I wont be getting everything I earn, but you do see the logic of the compulsory element given all the risks of adverse selection and inefficient outcomes of large groups of people making rational choices….but still…it gets to you just like singapore always gets to you.
about 4 years ago
it will be interesting to do a daily count of the obituary pages in ST. How many dies before age 85. How many dies after age 85. Then you know what kind of a con job the whole annuities thing is about. Even our Howe Yoon Chong died at 84 – poof – he could not get a cent of the annuity if he was alive – not that he needs it!
about 4 years ago
0-4 yr 196 K
5-9 yr 239.3 K
10-14 yr 263.6 K
15-19 yr 238.1 K
20-24 yr 222.4 K
25-29 yr 253.7 K
30-34 yr 303.6 K
35-39 yr 310.1 K
40-44 yr 331.2 K
45-49 yr 314.5 K
50-54 yr 260.5 K
55-59 yr 202.8 K
60-64 yr 120.8 K
If you looked at the above statistics as of 2006 given by the Statistics Department, you would realise that the number of people going to withdraw money out of their CPF savings would increase tremendously for the next 30 years or so. This would seriously affect those monies that have been taken away from the CPF Board for investments overseas. Could this be the real reason that has propelled the govt to act in the way it is acting now?
about 4 years ago
Hi Aaron, I like reading your blog and you have contribute greatly by adding substance to the Singapore blogosphere and a channel for us to think critically. Therefore please keep up the good work.
However I will like to add a few info titbits here. Firstly, although the US government bonds have a higher rate of return, they are taxable. Hence your real return is lower. In the case of Singapore, our returns are not taxed. Hence after tax deduction, the returns will more or less be on par.
Secondly, though I do not wish to state my stand on the forced annuity, I will like to share that I believe that delayed annuity (the concept behind this forced annuity) is really beneficial. The expected life expectancy has increased and this delayed annuity will be useful as it provides some money when we are too old to work and we do not have to be a financial burden to our next generation. Of course what I am saying is that we should be more financially responsible and invested in this delay annuity ourselves instead of relying on the government.
Our government have some control over our lives (like all governments over their people), we have control over a large part of it, how we can educate or empower ourselves over the choices we make. Aaron, once again keep up the good work and I will be back real soon-enjoying your wonderful articles
about 4 years ago
Infophile,
Are you sure return on investments are not taxed? I’m sorry if I sound totally uninformed about this but if you could point me to a source on this, I’ll greatly appreciate it.
Like you, I think an annuity is beneficial. However, I don’t think that it should be compulsory. Perhaps voluntary would make the system untenable because of low participation rates but I should think that people should be given the option of opting out. Perhaps the criteria for opting out could be make a little strict by requiring some form of evidence that the person has enough to support himself or herself till 80. It might be a matter of principle for me that people should be given a choice, just that they will have to face the consequences if they make the choice, e.g. having a lower priority in organ transplant queue if one opts out of HOTA.
Thanks for your kind compliments. I’ll continue writing my thoughts and if it will help spark some thoughts on the issues I’ve raised, I’m glad that I wrote about it.
about 4 years ago
I read with great pity on myself and the rest of Singaporeans. I have been thinking of many ways to give up my pink IC. I gathered that I would still be able to work in Singapore ‘cos our government favours foreign talent. In addition, I dun have to serve the nation every year as a NSman. I have never intended to retire in Singapore. Things are so expensive.
about 4 years ago
While I don’t think it’s accurate to count the deaths as Obituaries Page does, the official statistics don’t convince me either. With so many people being stressed out, I can’t believe our life expectancy is increasing. I agree with Aaron that we should be given a choice, don’t shove it down our throats. Even if we do live to over 85, why can’t our efforts at nation building be accounted for and grant us a pension from
the state funds? How many 85+ old people really can enjoy this?
So much for being a gracious society
about 4 years ago
I think we shouldnt argue too much. Let me enlighten everyone. Our government has long term objectives and are capable. Thats the reason why they are so well paid. They must have gone thru countless discussions on this. This compulsory annuity that was brought up during the National Day Rally was just to get us prepared. When the dust settle, it will most likely be implemented, like always. Why discuss so much? We must trust the government unless you decide otherwise in the next election.
about 4 years ago
3rd World Savings, 1st World Cost of Living
It has been argued strongly that elderly Singaporeans are not saving enough, despite the CPF scheme. This is hardly surprising.
The CPF was introduced in 1955 when Singapore was a Third World colony. Our per capita GDP (at current market prices) in 1960 was S$1,306. This figure rose significantly to S$13,725 in 1983 and to S$35,552 in 1996. Today Singapore is a First World nation and this is well backed by our 2006 per capita GDP figure of S$46,832.
The transformation of our country has led to rapid increase in the cost of living as suggested by historical Consumer Price Index (CPI) data. Using 2004 as the base year (=100.0), the CPI was 31.9 in 1961 (1960 figure not available), 74.7 in 1983, 94.3 in 1996 and 101.4 in 2006. (Source for statistics: http://www.singstat.gov.sg/)
Senior Singaporeans played individual minor, but fundamental roles in driving this economic miracle. Back in the 1960s, through the 1990s, they probably could not have imagined, how with hindsight, their salaries, by the same token their CPF savings, will appear so meagre today. Likewise they would not have expected the cost of retirement to be so expensive.
It appears that the pioneer generations of Singaporeans have become victims of their own hard work and success. Having earned Third World wages and made Third World savings in their younger days, they suddenly find themselves living, and dying, under the weight of First World costs.
Over the years Singapore has accumulated substantial wealth, including those made through investments worth millions by the GIC and Temasek Holdings. No one guarantees workers above 62 will find good paying jobs and the proposed compulsory annuity’s payout of $250 to $300 is a drop in the ocean by today’s costs of living. While we applaud our government’s initiatives to stretch our retirement savings, it is high time we tap on our riches to help those with inadequate CPF monies to overcome the disparity of Third World savings, First World costs.
It is increasingly urgent for the government to lower the cost of living for retired Singaporeans. This could be done by co-paying for their essential expenses, such as medical, healthcare and public transport. This should not be viewed as pouring resources into a bottomless pit. Just as government investments into the economy through mega-projects like the IRs and hosting of F1 are now rewarding handsomely, investments into such schemes will generate the economy and the welfare of our people.
The CPF Board website states “CPF ensured that workers could support themselves with dignity in retirement”. Would the government play its part to fulfil this?
about 4 years ago
To Chris,
I don’t even know where to begin to point out the flaws in your reasoning.
First of all, we did not agree to pay them the amount they are getting, they decided on that themselves. So this is no indication of their competence, just their greed.
To say that they must be right cause they’re paid so much is the same as saying someone must be the best musician cause he or she has the biggest flute/guitar/piano/etc…
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