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	<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 16:11:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Scotty</title>
		<link>http://aaron-ng.info/blog/loosen-up-a-little-pap.html#comment-17753</link>
		<dc:creator>Scotty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 16:01:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;Well, what has fees got to do with whether an event is private or not? In fact, I will argue that fees make an event private because there is a barrier to being part of the event.
And as long as it’s private and steps have been taken to create barriers to the event, I don’t care whether it’s a media screening or mass orgy. Private affairs are, private.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

In that case, all paid cinema performances would be private by your definition.

And thus, there should be no restrictions on any form of media, so long as a fee is charged for the viewing?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><i>Well, what has fees got to do with whether an event is private or not? In fact, I will argue that fees make an event private because there is a barrier to being part of the event.<br />
And as long as it’s private and steps have been taken to create barriers to the event, I don’t care whether it’s a media screening or mass orgy. Private affairs are, private.</i></p></blockquote>
<p>In that case, all paid cinema performances would be private by your definition.</p>
<p>And thus, there should be no restrictions on any form of media, so long as a fee is charged for the viewing?</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Ng</title>
		<link>http://aaron-ng.info/blog/loosen-up-a-little-pap.html#comment-17750</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron Ng</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 05:21:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, what has fees got to do with whether an event is private or not? In fact, I will argue that fees make an event private because there is a barrier to being part of the event.

And as long as it's private and steps have been taken to create barriers to the event, I don't care whether it's a media screening or mass orgy. Private affairs are, private.  :mrgreen:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, what has fees got to do with whether an event is private or not? In fact, I will argue that fees make an event private because there is a barrier to being part of the event.</p>
<p>And as long as it&#8217;s private and steps have been taken to create barriers to the event, I don&#8217;t care whether it&#8217;s a media screening or mass orgy. Private affairs are, private.  <img src='http://aaron-ng.info/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_mrgreen.gif' alt=':mrgreen:' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Scotty</title>
		<link>http://aaron-ng.info/blog/loosen-up-a-little-pap.html#comment-17748</link>
		<dc:creator>Scotty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 12:54:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aaron,
So, in summary, you believe there should be no restriction on media screenings, so long as they happen in private?
What about if a fee is charged to attend the event? :-) Does it still count as private?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aaron,<br />
So, in summary, you believe there should be no restriction on media screenings, so long as they happen in private?<br />
What about if a fee is charged to attend the event? <img src='http://aaron-ng.info/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> Does it still count as private?</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Ng</title>
		<link>http://aaron-ng.info/blog/loosen-up-a-little-pap.html#comment-17746</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron Ng</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 17:08:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scotty,

Yes I will still object. A private screening is a private screening. I don't see any widespread 'harm', if any, to others. I don't think I am applying double standards. If something is a private affair, then the state should get their ass out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scotty,</p>
<p>Yes I will still object. A private screening is a private screening. I don&#8217;t see any widespread &#8216;harm&#8217;, if any, to others. I don&#8217;t think I am applying double standards. If something is a private affair, then the state should get their ass out.</p>
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		<title>By: Scotty</title>
		<link>http://aaron-ng.info/blog/loosen-up-a-little-pap.html#comment-17740</link>
		<dc:creator>Scotty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 13:58:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Would you have found it as objectionable, if the film being screened was a hardcore pornography flick, and the organisers said "actually this is a private screening, do you barge into weddings and ask for the film?"

i.e. If one is campaigning for political speech to be treated no differently from other forms of speech, then political speech should not receive special &lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;concessions&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;, any more than it should receive special restrictions.

I also heard that a fee was charged for those wanting to see the film... if true (and it would be a nice bit of investigative reporting to find out), then it would be very odd for the screening to be considered a "private gathering".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would you have found it as objectionable, if the film being screened was a hardcore pornography flick, and the organisers said &#8220;actually this is a private screening, do you barge into weddings and ask for the film?&#8221;</p>
<p>i.e. If one is campaigning for political speech to be treated no differently from other forms of speech, then political speech should not receive special <b><i>concessions</i></b>, any more than it should receive special restrictions.</p>
<p>I also heard that a fee was charged for those wanting to see the film&#8230; if true (and it would be a nice bit of investigative reporting to find out), then it would be very odd for the screening to be considered a &#8220;private gathering&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Bedside Teddy</title>
		<link>http://aaron-ng.info/blog/loosen-up-a-little-pap.html#comment-17734</link>
		<dc:creator>Bedside Teddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 06:17:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Coz I doubt they care about how ya going anyway. Typical PAP. If the old man wanted to loosen up, he'd have done years ago. Singapore is just his family business. Makes good money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Coz I doubt they care about how ya going anyway. Typical PAP. If the old man wanted to loosen up, he&#8217;d have done years ago. Singapore is just his family business. Makes good money.</p>
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		<title>By: Bedside Teddy</title>
		<link>http://aaron-ng.info/blog/loosen-up-a-little-pap.html#comment-17730</link>
		<dc:creator>Bedside Teddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 15:46:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does it all matter? :roll:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does it all matter? <img src='http://aaron-ng.info/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif' alt=':roll:' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Wondering</title>
		<link>http://aaron-ng.info/blog/loosen-up-a-little-pap.html#comment-17729</link>
		<dc:creator>Wondering</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 12:32:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For years, the bullying has kept many from criticizing and telling the bully he has been wrong. As he wanted to be feared, no one dare correct his greatness and brilliance so the bully's head swelled considerably. Because he got his way,  he became very successful, rich and prospered. The heavens above looked down in silence amusement at the clever man's ways. But the heavens didn't intervene and allowed his pride to rise. Many too rode on his pride. The pride carried them across many lands, across many waters. Their fame spread far and wide. Many came to know of their successes. But alas, have they also been set up to such a time when the judges became judged by their own follies?

I wonder what's the moral of the story is.
Could it be:
1) If you relish throwing stones at little people, one fine day, the stone will gather into a huge rock and fall on you?
2) Or that you enjoy using the media to condemn and shame little people that a day may come and the same medium turned on you except on a much larger scale?

I hope the end won't be like the young man who killed Jesse James, because he was cowardly, and hope to capitalize from his 'good deed' but instead,  the people turned against him and he ended in a similar fate as james?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For years, the bullying has kept many from criticizing and telling the bully he has been wrong. As he wanted to be feared, no one dare correct his greatness and brilliance so the bully&#8217;s head swelled considerably. Because he got his way,  he became very successful, rich and prospered. The heavens above looked down in silence amusement at the clever man&#8217;s ways. But the heavens didn&#8217;t intervene and allowed his pride to rise. Many too rode on his pride. The pride carried them across many lands, across many waters. Their fame spread far and wide. Many came to know of their successes. But alas, have they also been set up to such a time when the judges became judged by their own follies?</p>
<p>I wonder what&#8217;s the moral of the story is.<br />
Could it be:<br />
1) If you relish throwing stones at little people, one fine day, the stone will gather into a huge rock and fall on you?<br />
2) Or that you enjoy using the media to condemn and shame little people that a day may come and the same medium turned on you except on a much larger scale?</p>
<p>I hope the end won&#8217;t be like the young man who killed Jesse James, because he was cowardly, and hope to capitalize from his &#8216;good deed&#8217; but instead,  the people turned against him and he ended in a similar fate as james?</p>
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		<title>By: gp</title>
		<link>http://aaron-ng.info/blog/loosen-up-a-little-pap.html#comment-17728</link>
		<dc:creator>gp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 12:21:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think just some guy in MDA who wants to suck up to the Old Man....and perhaps score some points.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think just some guy in MDA who wants to suck up to the Old Man&#8230;.and perhaps score some points.</p>
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		<title>By: Desperado</title>
		<link>http://aaron-ng.info/blog/loosen-up-a-little-pap.html#comment-17727</link>
		<dc:creator>Desperado</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 08:18:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Desperate times require desperate measures?

This is how I see it:  The act of seizing the DVD is a desperate act 
carried out by desperate  people who desperately wanted to "fix 
the opposition and buy the supporters' votes".  Someone had
already laid bare his intention openly right from the very 
beginning. 

Why would one tell the public that he would make the society more 
open and then shortly after came out with 19 new laws and 19 
amendments to existing laws to curb freedom of assembly and
freedom of speech? Isn't that a sign of desperate action that goes
against his own promise to the masses?

When such a grave matter as the Mas Selamat's Limping Escape
happened, someone after 11 days, then came out and said:  
"Its happened, its a lapse, what to do?"  

Why can't the same be applied upon such trivial matters as the viewing
of the One Nation film in a hotel for a select group of people? Where is the national priorities?  

Are the police only good at catching and bullying the weak but are 
totally useless when come to catching Mas Selamat?

Killing an ant with a hammer! This is really going too far!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Desperate times require desperate measures?</p>
<p>This is how I see it:  The act of seizing the DVD is a desperate act<br />
carried out by desperate  people who desperately wanted to &#8220;fix<br />
the opposition and buy the supporters&#8217; votes&#8221;.  Someone had<br />
already laid bare his intention openly right from the very<br />
beginning. </p>
<p>Why would one tell the public that he would make the society more<br />
open and then shortly after came out with 19 new laws and 19<br />
amendments to existing laws to curb freedom of assembly and<br />
freedom of speech? Isn&#8217;t that a sign of desperate action that goes<br />
against his own promise to the masses?</p>
<p>When such a grave matter as the Mas Selamat&#8217;s Limping Escape<br />
happened, someone after 11 days, then came out and said:<br />
&#8220;Its happened, its a lapse, what to do?&#8221;  </p>
<p>Why can&#8217;t the same be applied upon such trivial matters as the viewing<br />
of the One Nation film in a hotel for a select group of people? Where is the national priorities?  </p>
<p>Are the police only good at catching and bullying the weak but are<br />
totally useless when come to catching Mas Selamat?</p>
<p>Killing an ant with a hammer! This is really going too far!</p>
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