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Non-competitive local web hosting services
I have always been amazed as to why web hosting packages by Singaporean companies are so much more inferior in terms of features compared to overseas companies, particularly those based in the United States.
When I signed up with my U.S. based web host, Hostmonster, almost a year ago, they were offering 50 gigabytes of storage space and 99 gigabytes of bandwidth monthly. I thought that it was fantastic because I was signed on with a local company at that time and I was getting only 100 megabytes of storage space and 1 gigabyte of monthly bandwidth. And, with the local company, I had to pay for the annual renewal of the domain name. Hostmonster gives the domain name to me FREE for as long as I remain with them. Even after currency conversion, the local company was only cheaper by an extra dollar every month, so I made the decision to switch.
I’ve not regretted switching. And things got even better after I signed up. Now Hostmonster offers 3,000 gig of storage (includes email storage) and 3,000 gig of monthly bandwidth, all for USD$5.95 (which works out to be about SGD$10) a month. Aside from hosting websites, I can share files that are too large to send by email to friends by uploading the files and giving them the link (much better than yousendit.com because there’s no time limit and the space and bandwidth limits as good as no limit). I think I can store almost infinite amount of emails (Gmail is only 2.8 gigabytes) with the 3,000 gig of space. And of course, with so much storage space, your web hosting account can become your personal online backup drive. I seriously think that SGD$10 per month is ridiculously cheap for the amount of space they are offering. And, I’ve not mentioned other goodies, such as the ability to host unlimited domains, create unlimited email accounts, FTP accounts, subdomains, parked domains, forwarding email accounts etc.
Let’s now compare the offering of a U.S based web hosting company with some Singapore based ones. I did a quick Google search and pulled out the offerings of 5 Singaporean web hosting companies.
Exxelnet – Basic Plan @ SGD$9.50 per month (300 megabytes storage and unlimited bandwidth. SGD$2.50 for every 5MB of additional storage space, SGD$12 a year for an additional 3 megabyte email account, SGD$50 per subdomain)
Cybersite – Economy Plan @ SGD$10 per month (150 megabytes web storage, 150 megabytes email storage and unlimited bandwidth. Unlimited email accounts, SGD$60 a year for additional 25 megabytes web storage, up to $3 per megabyte of additional email storage).
Webhosting.com.sg – Lite Plan @ SGD$13.95 per month (150 megabytes web storage, 100 megabytes email storage and unlimited bandwidth. Unlimited subdomains and email accounts).
Usonyx – SOLO Linux Plan @ SGD$8 per month (1 gigabyte storage and email space, 10 gigabyte monthly bandwidth. 10 email accounts).
Singhost.net – Standard Plan @ $12 per month (5 gigabytes storage and email space, 75 gigabytes monthly bandwidth. 50 email accounts, unlimited subdomains and FTP accounts).
Of all, Singhost.net offers the most decent package for a Singaporean web host companies. The rest are simply terrible and cannot be compared to U.S based companies. Check out a couple of other U.S based companies, such as IX Web Hosting and Dot5Hosting. Their offerings are pretty similar to what I am getting with Hostmonster, and all these companies I mentioned usually host at least 100,000 domains, so you can be sure that their service is pretty reliable, else they would have no business at all. If you need to get yourself a web presence or a nice email address (especially if it’s for personal or small business use), forget about Singapore based web hosting options.
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about 4 years ago
Yeah what is the whole point of this post?
Singapore hosting is more expensive than the US.
Singapore PM also more expensive than US president.
Singapore cars also more expensive than US cars.
Singapore cigarettes also more expensive.
In US can get US$2 wine….that is sold for $18 at NTUC fairprice.
Please lah we are going to beat the US to be top 1st world nation, as long as Singaporeans are willing to pay for it we will get there.
about 4 years ago
My point was really not to link to the other stuff as you have done.
I was really just wondering how come this industry in Singapore is bucking the global trend in web hosting. In anycase, I just want to tell people to stop getting themselves ripped off. There are so many cheaper alternatives out there!
about 4 years ago
Yes, hosting in Singapore is more expensive than the U.S., but there are several reasons for this. Bandwidth in the U.S. is much cheaper because of economies of scale – the U.S. is the centre of all Internet infrastructure. An analogy is this: Do you think it’s cheaper to get a box of Khong Guan biscuits in Singapore or in the Carribean?
It’s not a case of getting ripped off. It’s just that providing an identical service based on the factors of production (bandwidth, servers, land etc) is just much higher in Singapore than in the U.S.
The reason why hosting still happens in Singapore is because you have a local point of contact and instantaneous access to the website/server. If those are not required then hosting in the U.S. is certainly more attractive.
No host in Singapore will dispute that.
about 4 years ago
What chrischood said aside,
IT IS SERIOUSLY RIDiCULOUSLY CHEAP.
about 4 years ago
Hi Aaron,
I thought iwi.com.sg is one of the reasonable web hosting co. in Sengkapoh.
Maybe U can looksee looksee n tell us how it compares?
Thks.
about 4 years ago
chris,
Is Singapore’s infrastructure really that expensive? I am not so sure. It seems to me that there’s lack of competition rather than economies of scale.
about 4 years ago
HugsAlive,
It’s not cheap at all. Even Singhost.net gives a much better offer.
about 4 years ago
If the site is for personal use, like yours, then the cheapest possible will work for you. If it is for corporate use, then we have certain issues to consider.
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As we know, there are a few cables going out of Singapore connecting to the rest of the world. If your business deals mostly with local clients, you would get local hosts as it would be wise to get them connected even we get disconnected from the outside world – this happened before.
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If your corporate clients are rest of the world, foreign hosts will seem to be attractive but then, we have another problem. If we get disconnected from the world, we cannot surf the foreign hosted sites (from here), we cannot FTP/upload/update files to the foreign hosted servers.
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Local site owners may not want their databases / email to be hosted on foreign servers. But, then it also will not stop local hosting resellers to provide cheap plans which use overseas servers.
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At the end of the day, for the corporate website owners, it is about how much risks they are willing to take.
about 4 years ago
Thks for checking & yr response, Aaron.
But iwi.com.sg has unlimited bandwidth/ monthly traffic for its basic Unix hosting package..
Isn’t that way more critical than hving a limited bandwith? Especially for an online store where traffic can be heavy? Surely I won’t want my customers browsing to my site only to fact the error message: Bandwith exceeded for this site..”
Pls advise. Thks again.
about 4 years ago
HugsAlive,
Unlimited bandwidth doesn’t mean much. The only good thing about having unlimited bandwidth is if you are going to stream high quality video. Else, most sites are not going to take up lots of bandwidth. This blog takes up only about 1+ gigabytes of bandwidth monthly, and my provider is offering 3000 gig of bandwidth. As good as unlimited, no?
Besides, unlimited bandwidth and quality of the bandwidth are two difference matters. You can have unlimited bandwidth but the speed can be slow. Doesn’t make things any better, right?
Ultimately, you should see what your needs are. I would advise going for overseas hosting sites if you are on a budget. Local ones are expensive. However, if you don’t feel secure having your files located overseas, then choose a local one. It’s really a matter of preference and how much you are willing to spend.
about 4 years ago
Thks alot, Aaron!
Yes, I’ve already been pondering over the ideas U mentioned of the bandwidth issue, before I sought yr advice on 10 Jul 2007 at 6:23 pm.
I’ve web-emailed Singhost with a query. It’s been 48 hours – still no word or anything from them.
Sigh.
Thks again!
about 4 years ago
This is probably a once-off comment and i will not track the response unless i’m somehow notified via email about it. I saw this page while Googling something about routers and somehow i got here.
I’d just like to express some views on the topic about Singapore Hosting Providers. If the defamation law is skewed slightly away from how it is being defined now, then i believe many hosting companies will start to chase after you for lowering the reputation of local hosting providers. But that’s besides the point.
I own a IT solutions company in Singapore, and web hosting business is part of our service scope as well. Since i’m not here for any advertising, i shall not be disclosing the name here. I have been in the industry for the 7th year now, and been having a close watch on it even before the dot.com bubble.
My point is that, if your ultimate conclusion ends here that Singapore hosting is simply not the way to go, then i’d like to comment that this is all too shallow and you simply do not understand the industry enough to make such a comment. This is highly unjustified, skewed and without merit. Somehow, i thought that while freedom of speech is a right of everyone, there is also an obligation of responsibility over the speech that you have made, especially so in the virtual world when information dissemination is fast, long-lived and often cause unaware users to start believing in it. In this particular post of yours, i reckon that this is being irresponsible for you to cast an absolute statement, irregardless whether you are making them in your personal capacity or making them with shadows of your background as masters student, teaching assistant, and many other of your glamourous accolades.
The hosting industry itself is competitive, sometimes more competitive than the US depending on what denominators you are basing your comparison with. I refer to your comment that your new US hosting provider’s pricing is ridiculously cheap. For the same reason, i believe you have understood on the fact that the pricing itself is unbelievable and never to be thought as possible.
I’d just like to share some comparisons. International bandwidth at wholesale rate is at approximately S$250.00/month per Mbps, which equates to around 300GB of data transfer every month. To provide you with 3000GB of data transfer every month to you, the provider has to potentially spend S$2500.00/mo on bandwidth, assuming the fact that you spend them all on international transit. Local bandwidth (Singapore) is at approximately half the price, so if we work on a 50-50 mix of usage, we are still talking about more than S$1800.00/mo of real dollars if you were to finish everything.
Storage is pretty cheap now, but it wasn’t so a year ago. Since i’m making this entry, i’ll take the typical price as per last year. For the largest storage capacity of 1TB (1000GB), it costs approximately S$600.00. In order to provide you with 3000GB of storage space, the provider has to spend an approximate costs of S$1800.00. And this amount of storage is probably almost the maximum that the technology of a delivery server can hold. As such, in order to fully serve an account like yours, the provider has to dedicate an entire server to you which can cost up to S$3000.00, inclusive of other hardware equipments. In our industry, we normally depreciate equipments on a 12-month basis, therefore we are expecting around S$250.00 per month depreciation rate.
Putting everything together, in order to fully serve an account like yours, the provider has to standby S$2050.00/mo worth of solutions. All these at US$5.95, or less than S$10.00? Now you’re a Masters student, i’m sure your math don’t fail below mine. How will this meet your bottomline?
Let me use another example. You’ve said that the US host can host up to 100,000 domain names on your account. This is no different from unlimited, but is this technically possible? I’d like to place a veto on this that it is a very shallow view if you think that all this is just too good. You must not have known the technical side of industry, let me elaborate a little. Even though a hard disk may have a capacity of certain GB, perhaps 100GB. Under an operating system environment, it may not be able to hold the entire 100GB, if there are too many files. Perhaps when you are free one of these days, try transferring 1 x 100GB file and 100,000,000 x 1KB files between 2 different hard disks, and see for yourself which is faster. Firstly, the more number of files (not just the file size) there are, the higher system resources is required to process them. Secondly, the more number of files there are, and if they are at such a high volume, your hard disk may not be able to hold them all in the first place. Therefore, i’d like to submit that the 100,000 domain names is simply a gimmick and may not be hold water until it is all so tested. There is no problem about hosting 100,000 domains on an account, but if all these 100,000 are hosting websites, you will face data loss in no time. Believe me, because i start to face problems the moment i load my server with more than 1,000 domains. As such, we work with multiple servers and do a close-out for each server when we have more than 500 accounts on it, or when the system starts to face resources management problem.
The gist of the above is that, all these competition vs. uncompetitiveness that you are seeing, is nothing but just marketing gimmick. I have showed you that it is technically impossible to provide so much of resources at such a low price. The logic behind the success of such business model is based on an overselling strategy. This means that the company actually expects every/most of the customers to not completely use up all the allocated resources. Assuming there’s 1TB of storage on a server, it is safe to estimate that perhaps each customer uses a maximum of 5GB of data storage, then they will be capable of selling up to 200 accounts. With that, 200 x S$10.00, and they are getting a decent amount of S$2000.00 income per month. Imagine that they oversell this capacity by more times, with more storage capacity on the server, and start more servers to do these, they can easily turn out to be one of the bigger hosting companies around.
In Singapore, we have a fairly small community to make this sustainable. If you have been watching this small little industry close enough, you would have realized that several similar business models have failed because they are unable to get enough customers to break-even, or to make it worthwhile for them to manage the problems which is a by-product of the overselling technology (i.e. overloaded servers, therefore the need to constantly move accounts around several servers to ensure continuous availability). The market here is simply too small, and the talks has always been about the US. Almost every global citizen knows about US, but how many knows about Singapore? I just have another Poland customer asking me if Singapore is an island of Philipines, another Nigeria customer saying that Singapore is part of Malaysia, another Czech customer thought that Singapore is within China, and some US customers who simply don’t know where Singapore is from the map – maybe in some other planets.
As a Singaporean, you must have heard about the street phrase that Singaporeans are generally “kiasu, kiasi, kiabor”. I believe i don’t have to translate these for a Masters student. If there must be a justification for all these, i’d put it these way. Singapore hosting providers are keen to try to oversell in order to improve their business revenue, but they are only willing to bear a risk by a small margin, unlike many of the US hosting providers. Perhaps this is due to the typical mindset of Singaporeans, generally low-risk takers and they believe that in this place, the moment you fall, it is very difficult to get up again. Between being a disciplined attitude and ambitious attitude, Singapore hosting providers have chosen the former as it appeared safer.
I do not want to stereotype your accolades, as i believe you must have spent a lot of effort into achieving them. But try asking some of your younger mates, ask them why they are going to JC instead of Polytechnic after ‘O’ levels enough though there has been enough grapevine feedbacks that Poly-Uni route is appearing to be more attractive to prospective employers than the traditional JC-Uni route (this applies to many many employers), a fact supported by people from many walks of life. My quick guess that one of the most common answer you’ll get is, “well, this is the tried and tested route”. Now, this conservative and low risk-taking mindset is everywhere in the society, how is it not going to be applicable in the hosting industry?
Coming back to the topic here. What had Singapore based web hosting providers done wrong to deserve your condemnation? Just because someone else can offer you better deals, so you’ll put down the worse off offerors? I think it is too shallow again. I must say, not that we are not good, it’s just that someone else is better – in doing something that is high-risk, and somewhat regarded as unethical when it’s discovered by some groups of customers that they may not be getting the real value.
To the contrary, the fact that many local hosting providers are still surviving the competition albeit the high intensity within the industry is not because our customers are not well informed enough about the cheap deals across the oceans. These days, there’s no such thing as sole domination on information or knowledge, because information is everywhere. For my company in example, customers sought our services despite knowing the fact that we are though not the cheapest, neither the most expensive. The main attraction to our services is a local contact person, recognition (business registration/company incorporation) from local government, better and dedicated service, one-stop solutions provision, ease of local payment, ease of local timezone for communication, reliability and proven track records, and many other plus points which makes me so very not humble if i list them all down. These are not fictitious, they can be found in the testimonials and appraisals that we receive.
These comment may be long, but they do not cover the entire in-depth view of the industry and topic as a whole. I shall not go on future, but i hope that my little effort here counts towards shaping your trace of thoughts to become a better critical thinker, fairer and more responsible. Hope that you’ll be able to accept my comments. Thanks for reading.
about 4 years ago
Anonymous Lau,
I have a couple of responses to your reply. Firstly, if you want to berate me for not knowing the industry before comment, then refrain from talking about defamation. You clearly do not know the difference between criminal defamation and civil defamation. And besides, opinions are never defamatory under the laws of most countries on this planet.
And secondly, I don’t know why you are taking things so personally such that you have to make references to my education and background. I welcome you to issue a strong rebuttal regarding points but to resort to peppering your response with ad hominems says alot about your willingness to be open and, in your words, to engage in critical thinking.
Finally, thanks for detailing some of the insider information about the IT industry but what you raise does not make my point invalid because I wrote from the perspective of the consumer. I don’t like the way you are trying to insinuate that if one is an expert on a topic then one has no right to make an argument. So, only lawyers can talk about the law and politicians can talk about politics?
From a consumer perspective, it is clear that the local web hosting industry does not offer as much value for money compared to overseas players. This is not a false statement. The links I posted point to that fact. Sure, there might be mitigating factors involved but that still does not change the fact that it is cheaper for the average home user who wants a website/blog to host it outside of Singapore.
I don’t really care about your response to my comment because from the way you reply, you seem to be taking things personally and you try to cover it up by saying that I should be open-minded about your comments. Well, in the first place, it seems to me that you are the one who is narrow-minded to my comments from a consumer perspective.
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