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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://aaron-ng.info/blog/over-reaction.html/comment-page-1#comment-10264</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 20:15:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This discussion shows to me clearly why there will not be a more inclusive democracy any time soon:

The reason is simple: The government cannot be totally demonized. 

There is stability in Singapore, there are clean streets, etc. Therefore Singapore Election Watch may have the right attitude, but no chance, simply because there many moderates (I don&#039;t think it&#039;s wrong to be a moderate, but if you want democracy, then real opposition to the regime is a precondition)

I think the only thing that could bring change is an economic crisis (or similar event)...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This discussion shows to me clearly why there will not be a more inclusive democracy any time soon:</p>
<p>The reason is simple: The government cannot be totally demonized. </p>
<p>There is stability in Singapore, there are clean streets, etc. Therefore Singapore Election Watch may have the right attitude, but no chance, simply because there many moderates (I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s wrong to be a moderate, but if you want democracy, then real opposition to the regime is a precondition)</p>
<p>I think the only thing that could bring change is an economic crisis (or similar event)&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: kwokheng</title>
		<link>http://aaron-ng.info/blog/over-reaction.html/comment-page-1#comment-9898</link>
		<dc:creator>kwokheng</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Feb 2007 11:37:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>one wonders if people like &lt;a href=&quot;http://aaron-ng.info/blog/over-reaction.html#comment-9893&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;somebody 2&lt;/a&gt; are indeed actually the pro-establishment ones.

ie. trying to exacerbate the polarisation and thereby escalating the state of affairs into a &#039;witch-hunt&#039;, which will have the moderates vs. the anti-establishment picketing one another.

Then the conflict escalates, and the govt steps in.

And then, end of story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>one wonders if people like <a href="http://aaron-ng.info/blog/over-reaction.html#comment-9893" rel="nofollow">somebody 2</a> are indeed actually the pro-establishment ones.</p>
<p>ie. trying to exacerbate the polarisation and thereby escalating the state of affairs into a &#8216;witch-hunt&#8217;, which will have the moderates vs. the anti-establishment picketing one another.</p>
<p>Then the conflict escalates, and the govt steps in.</p>
<p>And then, end of story.</p>
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		<title>By: somebody 2</title>
		<link>http://aaron-ng.info/blog/over-reaction.html/comment-page-1#comment-9893</link>
		<dc:creator>somebody 2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Feb 2007 10:07:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@KTM

care to deny out right here and now that you are not a member of this counter insurgency?

your response here and on your blog are the on the same line of when I accuses my kid brother of finishing all the cookies... namely something like .... .... &quot;why you every time also accuse me of that one....&quot;.

Being 
1. Playing up the victim role
2. Had cleverly skirted the issue by accusing the accuser instead
3. No outright denial means no need to outright lie means no getting caught lying.
4. Was accused of that frequently in the first place precisely because there is a vast amount of history and facts to suggest so.

Ha ha... these 4 points applies to both you and my kid brother. and BTW he is guilty as hell of finishing up those cookies.... are you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@KTM</p>
<p>care to deny out right here and now that you are not a member of this counter insurgency?</p>
<p>your response here and on your blog are the on the same line of when I accuses my kid brother of finishing all the cookies&#8230; namely something like &#8230;. &#8230;. &#8220;why you every time also accuse me of that one&#8230;.&#8221;.</p>
<p>Being<br />
1. Playing up the victim role<br />
2. Had cleverly skirted the issue by accusing the accuser instead<br />
3. No outright denial means no need to outright lie means no getting caught lying.<br />
4. Was accused of that frequently in the first place precisely because there is a vast amount of history and facts to suggest so.</p>
<p>Ha ha&#8230; these 4 points applies to both you and my kid brother. and BTW he is guilty as hell of finishing up those cookies&#8230;. are you?</p>
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		<title>By: the Stark In Winterfell</title>
		<link>http://aaron-ng.info/blog/over-reaction.html/comment-page-1#comment-9892</link>
		<dc:creator>the Stark In Winterfell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Feb 2007 10:03:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aaron, 

perhaps u can talk to guojun about conspiracy theories...he is full of them</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aaron, </p>
<p>perhaps u can talk to guojun about conspiracy theories&#8230;he is full of them</p>
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		<title>By: guojun</title>
		<link>http://aaron-ng.info/blog/over-reaction.html/comment-page-1#comment-9891</link>
		<dc:creator>guojun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Feb 2007 09:52:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>maybe one of our politicians could sue Singapore for defamation...then they dont have to arrest anyone, just close the borders to anyone trying to travel can already. heh heh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>maybe one of our politicians could sue Singapore for defamation&#8230;then they dont have to arrest anyone, just close the borders to anyone trying to travel can already. heh heh.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Ng</title>
		<link>http://aaron-ng.info/blog/over-reaction.html/comment-page-1#comment-9877</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron Ng</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Feb 2007 07:51:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe by labelling Internet users as the enemy of the state, there would be justification to invoke the ISA? *gasp*

Well, that&#039;s my 2 cents worth of conspiracy theory. :p</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe by labelling Internet users as the enemy of the state, there would be justification to invoke the ISA? *gasp*</p>
<p>Well, that&#8217;s my 2 cents worth of conspiracy theory. :p</p>
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		<title>By: Azmodeus</title>
		<link>http://aaron-ng.info/blog/over-reaction.html/comment-page-1#comment-9874</link>
		<dc:creator>Azmodeus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Feb 2007 07:24:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*smiles* seems like you guys do play NWN.. *chuckles* haven&#039;t touched mine for a year or two.. though I prefer the pen and paper version where I have been a DM for a few years.

Stark,

Well.. it really depends on your values and personal position with regards to the letters written to the press. I don&#039;t think they refer the younger generation as been evil by not feeling grateful to the elder Lee. More like chastising them for their lack of appreciation of his work and vision in crafting Singapore in the way it is now.

As for me, I am just neutral mostly.. lawful neutral *smiles*

Regards</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*smiles* seems like you guys do play NWN.. *chuckles* haven&#8217;t touched mine for a year or two.. though I prefer the pen and paper version where I have been a DM for a few years.</p>
<p>Stark,</p>
<p>Well.. it really depends on your values and personal position with regards to the letters written to the press. I don&#8217;t think they refer the younger generation as been evil by not feeling grateful to the elder Lee. More like chastising them for their lack of appreciation of his work and vision in crafting Singapore in the way it is now.</p>
<p>As for me, I am just neutral mostly.. lawful neutral *smiles*</p>
<p>Regards</p>
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		<title>By: the Stark In Winterfell</title>
		<link>http://aaron-ng.info/blog/over-reaction.html/comment-page-1#comment-9871</link>
		<dc:creator>the Stark In Winterfell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Feb 2007 06:47:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmmm...good game NWN is....hey...thats true...if u look at the whole view...however my definition was from what i think is the view of the estab and the mainstream media, since the words used in their article seem to suggest that we are a bunch of commies hiding in the jungle known as cyberspace and to deal with us requires &quot;counter insurgency&quot; efforts... 

If we recall the aftermath of LKY&#039;s Dialogue, there were several letters to the papers condemning the younger generation for being ingrates and so on so forth. Assuming that they were not written by hantu, it can be inferred that from their POV, we are &quot;evil&quot; and they are &quot;good&quot;.

Thanks for pointing the part about chaotic good though...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmmm&#8230;good game NWN is&#8230;.hey&#8230;thats true&#8230;if u look at the whole view&#8230;however my definition was from what i think is the view of the estab and the mainstream media, since the words used in their article seem to suggest that we are a bunch of commies hiding in the jungle known as cyberspace and to deal with us requires &#8220;counter insurgency&#8221; efforts&#8230; </p>
<p>If we recall the aftermath of LKY&#8217;s Dialogue, there were several letters to the papers condemning the younger generation for being ingrates and so on so forth. Assuming that they were not written by hantu, it can be inferred that from their POV, we are &#8220;evil&#8221; and they are &#8220;good&#8221;.</p>
<p>Thanks for pointing the part about chaotic good though&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Ng</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aaron Ng</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Feb 2007 06:11:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stark,

Haha.. I have my copy of Neverwinter Nights 2 beside me. I don&#039;t think I&#039;m evil. If I have to classify myself in DnD terms, it would be more of Chaotic Good.

Chaotic because I don&#039;t buy the establishment messages all the time, and as for good, that&#039;s because I normally don&#039;t intend evil to happen when I write. I usually write with good intentions in mind. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stark,</p>
<p>Haha.. I have my copy of Neverwinter Nights 2 beside me. I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;m evil. If I have to classify myself in DnD terms, it would be more of Chaotic Good.</p>
<p>Chaotic because I don&#8217;t buy the establishment messages all the time, and as for good, that&#8217;s because I normally don&#8217;t intend evil to happen when I write. I usually write with good intentions in mind. <img src='http://aaron-ng.info/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: the Stark In Winterfell</title>
		<link>http://aaron-ng.info/blog/over-reaction.html/comment-page-1#comment-9861</link>
		<dc:creator>the Stark In Winterfell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Feb 2007 05:08:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aaron,

Haha...ah well...Goh Meng Seng has it worst. But truth to tell, you do not strike me as leaning towards the establishment...i must say i always thought u were on the fence but leaning slightly to the other side. In DnD speak, ur neutral &quot;evil&quot;:P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aaron,</p>
<p>Haha&#8230;ah well&#8230;Goh Meng Seng has it worst. But truth to tell, you do not strike me as leaning towards the establishment&#8230;i must say i always thought u were on the fence but leaning slightly to the other side. In DnD speak, ur neutral &#8220;evil&#8221;:P</p>
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