Comments, opinions and an occasional ramble
Philip Yeo’s side of the AcidFlask/Elia Diodati incident
IMPORTANT UPDATE:
If you wish to reproduce any part of this entry, you can only do so according to the conditions set forth by A*Star, which can be accessed here. If you do not accede to the conditions made by A*Star, you may be liable for defamation and I will take no responsibility for that.
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Philip Yeo has kindly commented on my previous article titled “Elia Diodati versus Philip Yeo: a watershed for blogosphere” with the excerpts of the original entry (that was deemed defamatory) by AcidFlask/Elia Diodotai, which I’ve been looking for without success. I’ve amended the original entry accordingly, but I think it’s not fair to Philip Yeo to have his response buried under a whole lot of other comments.
Therefore, in the interest of freedom of speech, I’m extracting Philip Yeo’s comment out to publish as a new entry so that everyone can read the exact writings that were thought of as defamatory by Philip Yeo and have a better understanding of the issue with this new information, instead of discussing/guessing in the dark without knowing the content of the original entry. I leave it up to readers to decide for themselves on who’s right and who’s wrong in the entire incident.
The following was directly copied from the original comment, which can be reached here:
philip yeo // Mar 4, 2007 at 11:45 am
“I originally said AcidFlask made remarks that Philip Yeo felt was defamatory, but that was inaccurate. It was a commenter that posted defamatory remarks, and AcidFlask was held accountable for the comments.†[Aaron's note: the preceding quote was taken from my original entry and was made by me, not Philip Yeo]
For the past 2 years, Chen Jiahao/Acid Flask/Elia Diodati have been pretending that he did not know what defamatory statements that he had made but nevertheless he apologized.
Now claims that “a commenter that posted defamatory remarksâ€.
A born coward. See the naked truth below.
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The Truth about the postings of Chen Jiahao/Acid Flask.
Postings by Chen Jiahao/Acid Flask at http://www.scs.uiuc.edu/~chen6/blog/pivot/entry.php?id=318 (now defunct).
caustic.soda by AcidFlask
liminal musings of a graduate studentthis is “a*star in parliament†by AcidFlask at 03 03 05 – 13:03. please leave a comment.
a*star in parliament
-03 03 05 – 13:03
Science, Singaporewhich is perhaps why a*star feels justified in bribing universities for taking in PhD students. staggeringly enough, the cost quoted is very likely to be grossly understated, since I have been told that a*star gives out generous funding grants to specific faculty members (to the tune of us$150k/yr or so) for accepting up to three a*star scholars into their lab, as well as giving out gobs of honey to universities who will sign back-door agreements for taking in scholars without going through the formal application procedure. to the cash-strapped universities in America, the unbelievable godsend that visiting a*star contingents herald is something they can’t get enough of/f. after all, who else would be so incredibly naive and stupid as to throw money at other people instead of investing money to fund their own local research and developing their own r&d communities?
to quote a certain high-up in a*star: “if you don’t like it, then leave!†which perhaps explains the quiet turnover of more than one a*star scholar within the last twelve months. but at last, perhaps quiet no longer.
I would gladly do so, except that my sources are very likely to suffer the kind of spiteful retributive backlash that characterizes the public service. Therefore they can only remain hearsay and rumour under the current circumstances.
[AcidFlask] (email) (link) – 03 03 05 – 17:39
Lest I set myself up for libel, let me state what I know about this.
I do not recall the exact sums involved but this is the gist of what I had been told.A fellow alumna of UIUC once attended a Chemical Engineering class in this university sometime in 2003. The subject of the lecture somehow went on to funding crunches faced by researchers in the US due to post-9/11 budget cuts when suddenly the professor remarked: Oh, by the way, if any of you are in need of money, you should consider applying to this agency called A*STAR in Singapore. They offered me $150,000 for my research with no strings attached, plus an extra $35,000 for every one of their students that I accepted into my group. Singapore seems to be a very rich country; they have money to throw at you, all you have to do is ask for it!
[AcidFlask] (email) (link) – 03 03 05 – 20:30
going further down the list.. a*star scholars seem to know that “a certain high-up†in a*star has a tendency to recommend scholars to go to some institutions, like UIUC, U of Wisconsin, and UCSD.. perhaps it is those very schools that a*star has those connections with? and perhaps the reason for asking scholars not to go to the top universities is that they tend to be awfully expensive when it comes to tuition fees too (like Stanford, Harvard, MIT, Princeton).
[AcidFlask] ( email) (link) – 04 03 05 – 11:30
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http://www.scs.uiuc.edu/~chen6/blog/
APOLOGY
I recognize and accept that a number of statements that I made on my on-line journal “Caustic Sodaâ€, in particular the blog post of 3 March 2005, were defamatory of A*STAR, its Chairman, Mr. Philip Yeo and its executive officers.
I admit and acknowledge that these statements are false and completely without any foundation.
I unreservedly apologize to A*STAR, its Chairman Mr. Philip Yeo, and its executive officers for the distress and embarrassment caused to them by these statements.
I undertake not to repeat the statements, or make further statements of the same or similar effect in this or any other forum or media. I further undertake to remove any such posting anywhere that has not been deleted.
Addendum:
Philip Yeo has provided more evidence to refute AcidFlask’s claim that A*star only sends its scholars to certain institutions.
32 out of 78 A*STAR PhD USbased scholars are at Stanford, MIT, Harvard and JHU.
By his wicked blog, all 78 should be at UIUC, UWisc, UCSD.
In fact, only 2 at UIUC (EEE and Physics, ex-PSC chaps), 1 at UWisc (biology) and 3 at UCSD (2 biology, 1 EEE).
Not a single Chem Engg scholar at UIUC as his blog claims.
Great insult to A*STAR scholars that they are in rich Stanford etc etc by bribery.
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about 3 years ago
Uncle Sam wrote:
HE could have SUED the university for infringing his right to free speech (which the American Civil Liberties Union would likely have supported pro bono), and Elia would have won. Schools cannot censor students in the US and there’s a long string of court cases upholding their rights.
Absolutely. And, per the link in my last comment, his school did not attempt to censor him.
about 3 years ago
Hilarious! Expert on Singapore. See below.
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At 10:09 PM 4/26/2005, you wrote:
I am glad that he has come to his senses.
Talked to his advisor and he was called in.
As a result he has removed the page and put up the apology page.
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Hence he is not using his SCS server now.
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Elia Diodati’s quote from a letter sent to him by his department regarding his blog speaks otherwise.
I think “you have established yourself as an expert on the topic of Singapore, and that is sufficient reason for me to support your right to maintain your site on the SCS server†pretty much contradicts whatever the adminstrators told you.
about 3 years ago
Free speech including defamatory statements?
Let’s see how you would react if Acidflask puts a blog calling you a crook and XXX expert?
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twasher UNITED STATES // Mar 9, 2007 at 6:15 am
Uncle Sam wrote:
HE could have SUED the university for infringing his right to free speech (which the American Civil Liberties Union would likely have supported pro bono), and Elia would have won. Schools cannot censor students in the US and there’s a long string of court cases upholding their rights.
Absolutely. And, per the link in my last comment, his school did not attempt to censor him.
about 3 years ago
Philip,
Maybe I’m dense, but I fail to see how your last two comments have shown that UIUC forced him to take down his blog. He presented evidence from a letter that his department sent him. You haven’t presented any evidence other than asserting that you had ‘talked to his advisor’. Do you similarly have a quote from his advisor confirming that Acidflask was forcibly reined in?
about 3 years ago
Or perhaps that email quote was from a UIUC authority? From the header “At 10:09 PM 4/26/2005, you wrote:”, I assumed that it was a quote from yourself.
about 3 years ago
You are VERY dense.
The quote is from UIUC staff email to me.
Why does Acidflask not use the SCS server now?
He is free to put up facts and opinions.
But not defamatory statements.
You must be his agent?
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twasher UNITED STATES // Mar 9, 2007 at 10:20 am
Or perhaps that email quote was from a UIUC authority? From the header “At 10:09 PM 4/26/2005, you wrote:â€, I assumed that it was a quote from yourself.
about 3 years ago
Dense people cannot differentiate between facts and opinions from defamatory statements. Sad.
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washer UNITED STATES // Mar 9, 2007 at 10:11 am
Philip,
Maybe I’m dense
about 3 years ago
Thanks for the clarification.
The letter Acidflask received indicates that UIUC would not forcibly remove his blog. The email you got indicates that he removed his blog after being talked to by his department. I don’t believe that either you or him are lying, so I suspect what happened was that UIUC did not feel they had enough of a case to officially censor him, but they also thought it prudent not to have a controversial site on their servers, so they advised him to discontinue the blog. This is consistent with all the evidence presented so far, and also with Uncle Sam’s claim that the university had no right to forcibly censor him. Girolami’s letter clearly indicates that his department would not violate his right to maintain his site (even if they objected to the contents of the site).
about 3 years ago
UIUC would not want a blog wherein it is accused of receiving bribes.
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washer UNITED STATES // Mar 9, 2007 at 11:33 am
Thanks for the clarification.
so I suspect what happened was that UIUC did not feel they had enough of a case to officially censor him, but they also thought it prudent not to have a controversial site on their servers, so they advised him to discontinue the blog. T
about 3 years ago
Mr yeo,
free speech would have to include defamatory statements. i think it’s a necessary evil.
and like what i had said earlier, once there’s enough disclosure of facts, people would understand, and formulate their own judgements.
last point, i think it would be good to look behind why people (at least in this case) want to make defamatory comments? beyond the superficial reasons of malice, is there any structural problem that leads to people calling others names or making defamatory comments?
and i thought the whole debate here clarifies a lot of things (which a lawsuit won’t). so it’s good and healthy. dense and elite people are both citizens of singapore in “an inclusive society”
cheers!
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philip yeo SINGAPORE // Mar 9, 2007 at 8:52 am
Free speech including defamatory statements?
Let’s see how you would react if Acidflask puts a blog calling you a crook and XXX expert?
about 3 years ago
Bitter ex-PSC bond breaker envious of fellow Sigaporean A*STAR scholars. Thought he could get away by blogging defamatory statements.
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neutral bystander SINGAPORE // Mar 9, 2007 at 6:44 pm
last point, i think it would be good to look behind why people (at least in this case) want to make defamatory comments? beyond the superficial reasons of malice, is there any structural problem that leads to people calling others names or making defamatory comments?
about 3 years ago
Ooops!
My “N” alphabet key is misbehaving.
Have to send this wretched IBM X60 to repair next week.
Bitter ex-PSC bond breaker envious of fellow Singaporean A*STAR scholars. Thought he could get away by blogging defamatory statements.
about 3 years ago
I got onto this site as a result of a Google search for material on UIUC / Philip Yeo/ A*STAR
Lets just say that I happen to like science, do it for a living , in Singapore, outside of Biopolis and for many years, outside the mainstream.
Like some of the readers of this blog, I was pretty dissed with the Sing. Govt about issues like bonding and the heavy handed way the PSC used to treat scholars – things that happended 25 years ago perpetuate. So I can see where the angst in nit-picking is coming from.
It may surprise you that despite the hard hearted exterior, the government reacts to comments such as those posted here. Many times, it over-reacts – like an over protective parent. That seems to be our cultural DNA – can you not see fragments of it in your own behavior? The result is bizzarely – more regulation – more justification needed to do mundane things !!!
I find it amusing to hear about how A*STAR has been accused of ‘bribing’ certain faculty. I recently tried to get money out of Singapore from A*STAR coffers to fund a UIUC based researcher working in collaboration and found it is simply not possible. Reading this blog gives me some insight into the responses I have received.
I will wager that most readers won’t be patient enough to tolearate the crap a professional researcher has to deal with each day. A certain amount of this can be backtraced to accountability and the insecurity bureaucrats develop when citizens rail that we are spending lots of money on this or that cause.
Gaining mindshare, access to people’s mental workspace is one positive benefit of placing Singaporeans in the better Universities overseas. I wouldn’t be so critical of some of the efforts made by Singapore Inc over the last years. The nett result is that it makes it easier for others to follow. can this be bad?
Speaking up etc – nice – but once one starts using strong language – thats when emotions get in the way. An emotionally clouded mind becomes irrational and worse, usually unhelpful.
As for the ACLU – yeah – they may preach free speech but go against them and see if you walk.
about 3 years ago
But like it or not, Singapore does have a reputation of giving foreigners money…I remember a friend from MIT once described Singapore as “this rich little nation that has a lot of money”. But I don’t think that is any of Astar/Philip Yeo’s doing….
about 3 years ago
Like the S$600 m Singapore-MIT Alliance (http://web.mit.edu/sma/)
Students are not bonded.
Most are non-Singaporeans.
Opportunity to Learn, Earn, and Leave (LEL).
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Starlet UNITED STATES // Mar 28, 2007 at 8:30 pm
But like it or not, Singapore does have a reputation of giving foreigners money…I remember a friend from MIT once described Singapore as “this rich little nation that has a lot of moneyâ€.
about 3 years ago
MIT has ‘collaborations’ around the world. Top US Unis compete for $$$$.
Question is can branding be simply transplanted to a 2nd or 3rd party. Is the collaboration effective? Has there been an honest assessment? Branding NOT EQUAL reputation.
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philip yeo SINGAPORE // Mar 31, 2007 at 5:18 pm
Like the S$600 m Singapore-MIT Alliance (http://web.mit.edu/sma/)
Students are not bonded.
Most are non-Singaporeans.
Opportunity to Learn, Earn, and Leave (LEL).
about 3 years ago
MIT “collaborations” has been at the max expense of the other parties.
Their monies, MIT’s brand.
Not my cup of tea.
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James SINGAPORE // Mar 31, 2007 at 8:25 pm
MIT has ‘collaborations’ around the world. Top US Unis compete for $$$$.
Question is can branding be simply transplanted to a 2nd or 3rd party.
Is the collaboration effective?
Has there been an honest assessment?
Branding NOT EQUAL reputation.
about 3 years ago
Yeah…kinda hoping it doesn’t end up to look like the johns hopkins incident…
besides, brand name isn’t everything anways…
about 3 years ago
In fact, given so many branded universities around the world, why MIT?!?
And in science it is the actual pple(brand name of the pple at times) that matters more than the instituition…Just feel that the money in science could be better spent in building substance than purely buying brandnames…
about 3 years ago
“Like the S$600 m Singapore-MIT Alliance (http://web.mit.edu/sma/)
Students are not bonded.
Most are non-Singaporeans.
Opportunity to Learn, Earn, and Leave (LEL).”
Hmm…So what has Singapore actually gained from the alliance?
about 3 years ago
Wrong party to ask. Ha!
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Hmm…So what has Singapore actually gained from the alliance?
about 3 years ago
Good question. Ha! How come no one ask such questions except gripe about A*STAR? Not thinking?
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Starlet UNITED STATES // Apr 1, 2007 at 2:08 am
In fact, given so many branded universities around the world, why MIT?!?
about 3 years ago
The key is to see the “light” early.
If no return on investment, cut and move on.
Never be infatuated with any brand.
Brands can be like expensive perfume. Effervescence.
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Starlet UNITED STATES // Apr 1, 2007 at 1:45 am
Yeah…kinda hoping it doesn’t end up to look like the johns hopkins incident…
about 3 years ago
That is A*STAR does: catch Whales, groom guppies.
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And in science it is the actual pple(brand name of the pple at times) that matters more than the instituition…Just feel that the money in science could be better spent in building substance than purely buying brandnames…
about 3 years ago
Steal and kidnap Whales.
Educate our guppies.
But the guppies must have value system.
If all are of the likes of Acidflask, bond breaker, no future for Singapore. Sad. Adios.
about 3 years ago
Well…I disagree with calling Astar scholars guppies especially if u want them to turn into whales one day…
By calling them guppies, u r suggesting they are at the bottom of the food chain and that is hard to stomach when they wouldn’t have been otherwise with a phd from a renowned instituition. Yes, it is true that they have lots to learn from the whales, but surely u would want them to succeed as independent scientists one day…
And yes, I am not an Astar scholar.:P
about 3 years ago
“Good question. Ha! How come no one ask such questions except gripe about A*STAR? Not thinking?”
Personally, i don’t think any science instituition in Singapore has reached an ideal state and in all honesty, Astar has indeed made the most progress and in doing so, has made visible radical changes that pple can point fingers to and comment.
Hence, I do not think anything comments should be taken negatively but more as a recognition of the visibility of Astar.Thus, Philip, u should be proud of that…that u have been able to start an instituition from scratch and it such great visibility in such a short amount of time…I believe that will be ideal in ur hunt for whales or guppies…
about 3 years ago
Good things, $$$ cannot buy. MIT … mebbe the MIT of fame prior to 90s. Not instant fame.
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philip yeo SINGAPORE // Apr 1, 2007 at 12:29 am
MIT “collaborations†has been at the max expense of the other parties.
Their monies, MIT’s brand.
Not my cup of tea.
about 3 years ago
Agree. When parties are not serious or unable to, stop, examine, troubleshoot, cutting n moving on if have to and is the best to save everybody from loss of time, loss of life n waste of $$$
Trouble is we are face-saving game playing creatures. Die die must spend the $$$
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philip yeo SINGAPORE // Apr 1, 2007 at 9:52 am
The key is to see the “light†early.
If no return on investment, cut and move on.
about 3 years ago
KL, Korea, Cambridge …..
Not uniquely singapore’s.
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philip yeo SINGAPORE // Apr 1, 2007 at 12:29 am
MIT “collaborations†has been at the max expense of the other parties.
Their monies, MIT’s brand.
about 3 years ago
“The key is to see the “light†early.
If no return on investment, cut and move on.
Never be infatuated with any brand.
Brands can be like expensive perfume. Effervescence. ”
It is applaudable that u had the courage and the determination to stop the JHU thing from going on when u did not see the necessary progress but i am wondering anyone would have the sense to pull out of the MIT thing if things do not work out and lots of funds r being thrown in…
about 3 years ago
infatuation -> addiction ?
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Starlet UNITED STATES // Apr 1, 2007 at 10:46 am
“Never be infatuated with any brand.
Brands can be like expensive perfume. Effervescence. â€
It is applaudable that u had the courage and the determination to stop the JHU thing from going on when u did not see the necessary progress but i am wondering anyone would have the sense to pull out of the MIT thing if things do not work out and lots of funds r being thrown in…
about 3 years ago
Amen.
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but i am wondering anyone would have the sense to pull out of the MIT thing if things do not work out and lots of funds r being thrown in…
about 3 years ago
They have been “relieved” of much lesser amounts.
And they have woken up.
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James SINGAPORE // Apr 1, 2007 at 10:43 am
KL, Korea, Cambridge …..
Not uniquely singapore’s.
about 3 years ago
Singapore is a major exporter of guppies.
Whales are few, guppies are many.
From guppies to whales someday is a major metamorphism!
Our scholars, like me, have a good sense of humour.
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Dear Chairman,
More than putting Singapore on the world map, you’ve won the hearts and minds of the whales, dolphins and guppies that form our world-class team. In time to come, our young biomedical and scientific talents who are trained to compete in the world, will return to contribute back to our country. Chairman’s kindness will always remain in this little guppy’s heart and mind.
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Starlet UNITED STATES // Apr 1, 2007 at 10:31 am
Well…I disagree with calling Astar scholars guppies especially if u want them to turn into whales one day…
about 3 years ago
There is great cosmetic surgery these days.
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Trouble is we are face-saving game playing creatures. Die die must spend the $$$
about 3 years ago
Beyond nip n tuck … heart surgery n tonic n supernatural healing.
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philip yeo SINGAPORE // Apr 1, 2007 at 11:17 am
They have been “relieved†of much lesser amounts.
And they have woken up.
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philip yeo SINGAPORE // Apr 1, 2007 at 11:26 am
There is great cosmetic surgery these days.
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Trouble is we are face-saving game playing creatures. Die die must spend the $$$
about 3 years ago
Brain surgery.
Maybe brain transplant.
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James SINGAPORE // Apr 1, 2007 at 11:57 am
Beyond nip n tuck … heart surgery n tonic n supernatural healing.
about 3 years ago
haha…that sounds like a major operation…:p
about 3 years ago
for the record here:- Mr Yeo clarifies once more, mebbe he now prefers blogging to MSM
In blogging we get a better sense and perspective.
http://www.straitstimes.com/portal/site/STI/menuitem.c2aef3d65baca16abb31f610a06310a0/?vgnextoid=7532758920e39010VgnVCM1000000a35010aRCRD&vgnextfmt=vgnartid:04a71cc4643a1110VgnVCM100000430a0a0aRCRD:STForumArcIOID:5b46648bcd3a1110VgnVCM100000430a0a0aRCRD:STForumArcDate:1175378340000
about 3 years ago
Mebbe the next life or let us go to Second Life n transact in Linden dollars
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philip yeo SINGAPORE // Apr 1, 2007 at 12:17 pm
Brain surgery.
Maybe brain transplant.
about 3 years ago
The local press will print any rubbish from anyone who writes against me ~ helps to sell more ST papers.
I think I should ask ST for profit sharing.
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James SINGAPORE // Apr 1, 2007 at 12:35 pm
for the record here:- Mr Yeo clarifies once more, mebbe he now prefers blogging to MSM
In blogging we get a better sense and perspective.
about 3 years ago
infatuation – irrational emotions (love?)
addiction – rational dependency (brand shopping?).
The latter is worse.
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James SINGAPORE // Apr 1, 2007 at 11:12 am
infatuation -> addiction ?
about 3 years ago
If there are alternative MSM that are independent n fair, all this would not have happened – everyone gets a fair hearing n different perspectives
Nvr mind, there is the Internet. No need to waste paper n wait for early morning deliveries
imho, you are no Paris Hilton – no need to make those kinds of savvy or salacious $$$
better assets elsewhere.
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philip yeo SINGAPORE // Apr 1, 2007 at 1:54 pm
The local press will print any rubbish from anyone who writes against me ~ helps to sell more ST papers.
I think I should ask ST for profit sharing.
about 3 years ago
Dear Sir:
Actually for how long has the local press been writing anti-you articles. I don’t know but if a public figure gets on the wrong side of the press, he may have to put up with rubbish articles in future.
Yours sincerely,
Dr Dee
about 3 years ago
“The local press will print any rubbish from anyone who writes against me ~ helps to sell more ST papers.
I think I should ask ST for profit sharing.”
My sympathies with u for that but ST has also written articles to extol what u have done. In fact, honestly, I don’t think the articles are meant to protray u in one way or another.
It is just that a lot of times, you have to admit that you do make a lot of strong, provocative statements as a public figure, that whether taken in or out of context can elicit strong emotions…
And ST likes that because readers like that..I have to admit that I do like reading articles about u because of the things you r quoted saying…I don’t particularly judge you by what u say because everyone is entitled to have their own opinions.
It is just that your opinion tends to come across in strong provocative words or humorous analogies…as u said, u have a good sense of humor.:P
about 3 years ago
Humorous analogies..guppies dolphins and whales..and the crane to deliver. Lol. I imagine the stork with the baby but the crane delivering the whales, toughest. Thanks for the light banter.
about 3 years ago
Dee
sometimes, even bad news is better than no news …
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Dr Dee SINGAPORE // Apr 1, 2007 at 4:02 pm
Dear Sir:
Actually for how long has the local press been writing anti-you articles. I don’t know but if a public figure gets on the wrong side of the press, he may have to put up with rubbish articles in future.
Yours sincerely,
Dr Dee
about 3 years ago
Dee, Starlet, lkh,
You are all rational chaps. A “rare commodity” on the blogs.
When? Since the Feb 1998 “told MP Chng Hee Kok to resign” episode as he espoused bond breaking.
Use of figurative language to “illustrate” a point or an idea.
Saddens me to see vast majority of our PhD scientists are non-Singaporeans.
Singaporeans are technicians only. :’(
A Science BS degree one is good for “wash test tubes only”.
Purpose: to ridicule BS chaps to push on to PhD.
Loud shouts of Arrogant etc etc! No funny bones?
Girls come to interviews fully prepared. Boys not always prepared.
Answer with one liners. Losing out to the girls.
“Affirmative Action” for the boys needed?:-D
Unhappy, break bonds instead of asking for changes.
Girls will “pester” to get what they want.
Called the boys “whining and wimpy”.
Purpose: to ridicule them to buck up.
“Face” Hell breaks lose!:-D
Dislike narrow minded, rude bloggers and those who’s vocabulary is limited to vulgar words.
Label these as “frogs and toads”, the sweaty pond comes alive with self righteousness.
Few with a sense of humour. Dominant thin skinned genes?
This being “April’s Fools Day”, hope no one gets up from the PC.
To jump up and down with red angry faces on the blogs.
If some do, merely proves the “thin skinned genes” theory is right.
Humour keeps one sane.
about 3 years ago
Thanks for ur compliment.
But on an unrelated note, sometimes I wonder if it is too late for me to apply for the Astar scholarship…:p
but well…I guess since I have made my choice, it is kinda late to look back…