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PM Lee leads by example
It was reported in Channel News Asia that PM Lee will freeze his own pay for the next 5 years and donate away the pay increases in these 5 years. Read the full story here.
I am extremely heartened by PM Lee’s move. Maybe some people are still going to blast him for doing it as a belated PR stunt, but I think that as a leader of the country, he has done the right thing. And, I respect him for doing that. It shows that at least the leader of the country is not out of touch with reality. He has reclaimed some of the moral authority that the government has lost regarding this whole ministerial pay increase business.
In the Analects, the Confucius said this of a government leader:
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Translated, the above line says: “If one is able to correct oneself, what is so difficult about governance? If one cannot even correct oneself, how does he expect to correct others?”
Indeed, PM Lee understands the importance of leadership by example. This is the kind of leader that followers will gladly obey and stick with through thick and thin. To quote another line from the Analects:
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Translated, it says: “If one is moral and upright, people will follow without being ordered. If one is immoral and corrupted, people will disobey despite being ordered.”
I hope that the other ministers will take their cue from the Prime Minister and do the same. If such are the characters of all our government leaders, then I’m prepared to stake my future and life with Singapore. If not, no amount of money or glory will stop me from leaving Singapore.
Afterthought:
I hope that SPH and the other MPs DO NOT do the cheer leading like they did for the GST offset package. It will leave a very disgusting aftertaste if it happens and any goodwill from Singaporeans generated as a result of the PM’s voluntary gesture would disappear in smoke.
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about 3 years ago
bad link in earlier post.
http://www.yawningbread.org/arch_2007/yax-728.htm
about 3 years ago
Hi Aaron,
I think the question is very simple. Regardless if he takes a pay cut or not.
Why are they increasing their salaries? How much is enough? Why do they compare themselves to rich men in this country rather than compare themselves against other (less corrupt) politicians in other first world countries.
LKY is 84 years old, and drawing 3mil. I’d bet you can take ALL the aged over 80 in singapore, combine them and none of them would even see 3mil a year. Don’t forget that LKY has pension and godknows how much stock in GLCs.
Why is singapore so special? Why do we need 3 Prime Ministers when other countries have 1? Why do our ministers earn so very much more than other ministers?
Further, if you’d notice, the pay increases are going to the very top. Yet, the people who are leaving are not those people in the very top. The people who are leaving are those late20s to early30s, and the people in this bracket are getting the lowest increments. So how is this addressing the ‘supposed’ problem that the civil service (the civil service is NOT the ruling party) is losing its talent. The people who should be getting rewarded are the civil servants. The teachers, the soldiers, the clerks…etc. NOT the ministers.
about 3 years ago
Not to detract from the direct discussion of donations per se.
But I just read an official comment about how one can’t even really know what President Bush really makes.
That is misleading. In the U.S. the tax filings of the President are public information which requires the disclosure of all sources of income, be it salaries, gifts, investment returns, etc.
I am not aware of similar disclosures by our govt officials. Notwithstanding their official salaries, what about Director fees, travel allowances, gifts, etc.? Are they disclosed anywhere publicly? Not sure if govt officials are still allowed to sit on corporate or GLC boards and get a director’s fee though.
about 3 years ago
Aaron,
despite PM been noble, but it is just a wayang show. You still have his father, empire that still bestow great wealth to this dragon prince. In other words, nothing is still sacrifice as all in all, the kingdom of Singapore still belong to Lee only !!
Let me quote you an example since I am in business myself. I setup a company and become CEO. I take only $1 pay to inspire others, but the share I get is 100% , yes, 100% if I’running as gov run Singapore. I create inspiration for many people to continue believe that I’m sincere but in fact, I have hidden agenda because of one simple sacrifice, people start to generate even more wealth for me. The point I trying to convey is that it doesn’t matter which route you take as long as all road lead to Rome !!!!!!!!!!
PM understand and use this concept deceptively. Afterall, he has his empire to fallback to and can continue to reap millions based on his asset and legacy. For a little small sacrifice, he can even inspire more wealth from person like YOU ,
Is salary a sacrifice for PM ? I don’t think so as he want everybody to believe. He is asset rich, money-rich, and every moment we generate money for Lee’s empire, why then this is consider great sacrifice ? Give this a thought.
Aaron.
Sacrifice a small fish to get big fish even at expense of his ministers !!! Amazing and shrewd move.
about 3 years ago
Aaron,
you want to talk about true sacrifice, then ask the gov not to associate with PAP and play fair in election, and give power to people.
Otherwise, all these show are just plain wayang because utlimately Lee stand gain than to lose !!!
Aaron, you probably well-verse in 36 stratagems of Sun Tzu’s art of war. This is just one of the strategy used. Deception is another one they using now.
about 3 years ago
If this move will touch you. HOw about a move that ministers including MM Lee to cut salary by 50% just weeks before election ?????? And then revert back after election ??
Aaron, you should be careful afterall why is it that PAP is the only ruling party in the world that can survive for more than 4 decades ? Because it feed on people’s conscience and weakness !!!!!
about 3 years ago
I like what James Harding from The Times said about it:
“Yesterday, Lee Hsien Loong, the Prime Minister, agreed to donate his future pay increases to charity. This is absurd, because it means that the Singaporean taxpayers are being required to fund his charitable donations.“
about 3 years ago
Aaron
This gesture …. cannot be seen on its own.
The picture is already complicated by the fundamentals of what it means to be a Singaporean, how to make a living, how to govern.
about 3 years ago
Aaron,
if you still believe that PAP is commendable for such noble and charitable move, you might want to consider joining PAP. But hope you don’t join the dark side there because people there already been stripped of moral authority. Even their talk-cock seem so sensible to them !!! What can we say since they start to act moronic and give so stupid reason that we have no choice but to accept it and move on.
about 3 years ago
Aaron is yet another in the long, long, long line of products from Singapore’s “world class” education system. The analysis of this “gesture” is extremely elementary but Aaron was taken in by it hook, line and sinker. There is no critical analysis. There is no attempt at all to look at things from the “bigger picture”. It’s simply the case of the them throwing out something in the media and he swallows it wholesale.
about 3 years ago
Aaron,
Mark me when I say Dulai will go scoff-free. The issue of high pay rise will slowly be the start to distract people of good governance. This case will distract and try to erase people memory of dulai’case. Why ? The money from dulai is pale in comparison to what the whole of what ministers are getting. Slowly the people will forget about dulai’s case but dulai is very important as it showcase the nepotism and hypercrisy of the gov PAP system. Afterall Dulai is just practising the business of Singapore INC which is the business of our dear talented PAP gov !
I won’t be surprised that Aaron will forget about Dulai but focus on some distracting issues.
about 3 years ago
Liu Seow Ching,
I’m just a bystander hoping to defuse what looks like a nasty exchange. I can assure you that Aaron is no pro-PAP sycophant. He has much ill-sentiment towards the current ruling party. He is just, genuinely impressed by this move of the PM and he personally believes this reflects well on the PM’s character. We are all free to disagree with his beliefs, I think Aaron will grant that.
For the sake of argument let us grant that moral authority is an absolute. There are individuals like Aaron who are impressed with the PM, and there are individuals like you who are not. Moral authority can be considered as a statistical quantity if you consider what are the relative numbers of Aaron-like individuals VS the number of detractors. At the end of the day, the governement is not concerned about what one person feels, but what the entire voting population feels.
Aaron,
Rule one of the plogosphere. Write anything remotely pro-establishment and you will get flak. If you have more convincing arguments that just means less flak, not no flak. I think you should learn how to deal with this without resorting to calling names such as accusing someone of being “bigoted”.
Cheers to all.
about 3 years ago
Quzy,
Political gains, I certainly don’t doubt it. But whether it is a politically motivated move, nobody knows. I’m just applying the rule that we should presume innocence unless proven guilty. Once again, like I mentioned, it’s not that I do not have my doubts but I don’t intend to crucify anyone in the absence of further concrete proof that his action isn’t altruistic. We have circumstantial evidence now, but is that enough to convict, I’m not confident.
about 3 years ago
isens,
I totally share your observations and sentiments. However, as I explained earlier, I’m look at things from PM Lee the individual, and not the politician. If you are able to disassociate the two, you will see my point much more clearly. I can agree with your observations, but that doesn’t preclude me from thinking that it’s a nice PERSONAL gesture from the PM.
about 3 years ago
Francis,
I too am not aware of of the disclosures that you mentioned. It will be good if someone can point out the relevant laws that govern public disclosure of civil servant’s state of finances.
about 3 years ago
Piper,
Fair enough. Then where else is he going to draw his salary from, if not from taxpayers?
about 3 years ago
James,
I’m seeing it on it’s own from a PERSONAL perspective, as I mentioned to insens. From a public perspective, there are certainly doubts whether it’s a shrewd/belated/dumb political move in the grand scheme of things. I’m not saying that the move exonerated PM Lee, but I think at least he seems to be doing the right thing at a personal level.
about 3 years ago
This is a prime example of crutch mentality and me having to spoonfeed it:
Aaron, look here.
about 3 years ago
boyying,
Once again, I’ll just say that by me thinking that it’s a nice gesture from the PM doesn’t make me a supporter of the PAP. I think we should not be so quick to jump to conclusions that not being for a certain position equates being against the position. I’ve written many critical entries of the government because I saw a need to, but now I see a need to give that little accolade as I think it’s fair. I’m not even commending, the PAP; I’m just noting that it’s a nice personal gesture. The two are not the same.
And, I’ve no intention to join the PAP, at least not anytime soon. I’ve mentioned before that I rather be an independent than to be beholden to any political party, PAP or otherwise. I’ve my own principles that I adhere to, and you can be assured that I’m not being a sycophant for petty things such as gaining entry into YPAP exco or something.
about 3 years ago
IrCTP,
You’re still here? You are another one who cannot keep his word, just like Whybegay. Say that don’t want to comment but still come back. Sigh.
Anyway, since you replied, I’m going to return the courtesy. You yourself said in another person’s blog that good people in Singapore will not be crucified by vile ministers, but Singaporeans. You are a prime example of that.
Instead of offering ideas for debate, as usual, you go out to accuse people at a personal level. First, you accuse me of being “hot air”, next you accuse me of being “non critical”, and you pour disdain at the local education system. Hardly makes you any better, as I mentioned earlier.
In anycase, I wonder where is your critical thinking cap if you cannot even see the difference between a personal decision and a public decision. Not being able to disengage the two is so critical eh?
By the way, I’m aware of Molly’s entry. She has her perspective, I have mine. I respect her, but I respectfully disagree, which I why I have refrained from commenting on her blog. Unlike you, I don’t go around trolling people’s blog.
And, condemning me now doesn’t improve your credibility as a PAPanon. Nice try, but people who read all your comments on all blogs (other than mine) know who’s the real PAP spy. And, I hope you can at least keep your word. I have low respect for people who say they wil not do something but go ahead and do it anyway.
about 3 years ago
Fearfully Opinionated,
I’m not afraid of getting flak. As far as I’m concerned, I have my reasons for appreciating the PM’s gesture, and I’ll stand by that. It’s just funny that no one seems to remember how much I oppose the rationale for the increase in ministerial salary, but when I commend the PM at a personal level, everyone jumps on the ship and start accusing me of being pro-PAP. The best part is that some smarty-pants even took the liberty to call me “non-critical” and “crutch mentality”. I also don’t know whether to laugh or cry.
Anyway, I’m glad the exchange has been very civil, with the exception of a couple of people who insist on personal attacks. And I’m not even referring to Seow Ching. She (I presume it’s a her) has debated very nicely, and that I chose to use the word bigoted was merely a blunt response to her blunt reply. Subsequently, the exchange was very nice and civil, and I enjoyed it. I accord my response to the way I receive it.
about 3 years ago
Aaron:
I’m going to humour you again.
“You’re still here? You are another one who cannot keep his word, just like Whybegay. Say that don’t want to comment but still come back. Sigh.”
Is your blog one whole big argument / debate or just a site with issues you have raised (or moaned about)? Think.
“You yourself said in another person’s blog that good people in Singapore will not be crucified by vile ministers, but Singaporeans. You are a prime example of that.”
Good example of what? Do you even know what you are talking about?
“Instead of offering ideas for debate, as usual…”
Woah… have you been reading what I wrote? Haven’t I been leaving bits and pieces of stuff with which people can pick up and discuss about it? Surely all JC students did GP for their As?
“…, you go out to accuse people at a personal level. First, you accuse me of being “hot airâ€, next you accuse me of being “non criticalâ€, and you pour disdain at the local education system. Hardly makes you any better, as I mentioned earlier.”
If you haven’t realised this already, I have been picking on your arguments and not you as a person. This is unless you have taken it personally (which is something I have no control over). When you argue and debate, never take things personally (note Fearfully Opinionated’s comment to you).
“I respect her, but I respectfully disagree…”
How do you expect to engage in a debate when you throw out a statement like that without saying why you disagree with Molly? Have you even had a think about it before making that statement? Or is it just because IrCTP gave you the link you’ve immediately categorised it into something negative?
“And, condemning me now doesn’t improve your credibility as a PAPanon. Nice try, but people who read all your comments on all blogs (other than mine) know who’s the real PAP spy.”
Note the difference: I am admonishing you for your lack of initiative (starting an independent uni newsletter doesn’t really count) and your propensity to just blow hot air. Think twice before you use the words “condemning me” (Hint: You won’t get extra points in a high school debate for acting like a victim).
Next, I note in your little comment to boyying:
“I think we should not be so quick to jump to conclusions that not being for a certain position equates being against the position.”
So what is it that got you jumping to conclusions about me being a “PAPanon” or “PAP spy”? Just because I didn’t tickle your ears by agreeing with whatever you said lock, stock and barrel?
“And, I hope you can at least keep your word. I have low respect for people who say they wil not do something but go ahead and do it anyway.”
Missed the point as usual. Missed the point completely.
about 3 years ago
IrCTP,
Go ahead and comment all you want. I’m not in the least perturbed. It’s entertaining to read the kinds of things you write anyway. Thanks for contributing your bit to my blog publicity.
about 3 years ago
Addendum:
First the word “troll” was used.
Then, it was “PAPanon” and then “PAP spy”.
The latest is “smarty-pants”.
Note how these words are actually nouns. Can I classify these as personal attacks? Answers on a postcard please.
about 3 years ago
If you want me to treat you as a gentleman, behave like one.
about 3 years ago
Aaron:
Ahh… The powers of speedreading eh? It took the whole of four minutes to read my rebuttals to your long comment, including probably 20 seconds for you to craft such a short comment. They must have taught students this special skill in GP class.
I’ll leave it to the more enlightened to award us points for this debate.
about 3 years ago
Aaron:
“If you want me to treat you as a gentleman, behave like one.”
Define “gentleman” and prove it.
about 3 years ago
Gentleman is everything that you’re currently not.
And for certain things, it’s either you have it or you don’t. You can’t teach an old dog new tricks.
about 3 years ago
As I have predicted, a statement that barely papers the cracks and glosses over the facts when challenged.
No wonder the local kids lost to the UWC kids at The Arena.
about 3 years ago
You draw such quick causal relations with such confidence that I’m very impressed.
about 3 years ago
Hello all,
I just want to inform you all IrCTP is actually a secret member of the brotherhood movement. I think bc for one his quite adept at what he does. This is definitely not the first time he has done this. So we all have to ask where did he cut his teeth? Who taught him the ropes and showed him how to parry, thrust and side step?
He definitely belogns to the 130th of the brotherhood, just my take.
So be very careful Aaron. As much as I like you. I am afraid none of you are his match. He is toying with you Aaron, best just block him from the site, that should do quite nicely.
If you want I can speak to one of the guys in the IS and they can rein him in.
I am a regular reader of the brotherhood press so I recognize them.
about 3 years ago
good samaritan:
Good attempt.
What makes you so sure that I am from the brotherhood and you are not?
Food for thought.
about 3 years ago
“It is a counterfeit generosity that is contingent upon unchecked power.
In a nutshell, Lee Hsien Loong is donating to charity and getting a double tax credit for a pay raise that he gave himself so that he would not leave for the private sector (assuming he could find work there).
He is more dedicated to Singapore than we can imagine, but if we don’t pay him even more than the highest paid political leaders in the world, his father will send in the army.
Now that is the mark of a junzi!”
about 3 years ago
Like Aaron, I was touched when PM Lee said he was against the pay rise, and MM Lee and SM Goh egged him on. I was touched when he said he will get a pay freeze for 5 years.
However I was upset this morning to find out from the ST that SM Goh did the same thing years ago, in order to get the ‘moral authority’. And now he is laughing all the way to the bank by egging PM Lee. It is upsetting to find that SM Goh was the one who egged PM Lee on this recent pay rise, although he knows it is morally reprehensible years ago.
I am really worked up by the spin put up by PM Lee, MM Lee and SM Goh on this money politics and their spin. So what happens after 5 years? Well – more GOOD YEARS!! So Aaron – This play has played out before.
about 3 years ago
i think singaporeans are a visual lot. you need to do things explicitly to let them understaaaaaand some things.
yes, the pay increment is contentious because we have poor people. but let’s not forget that our authoritiarian regime has done well enough to prevent extreme poverty. it is very easy to pick the many ills of your ruler, but we shouldn’t forget the good nor be blinkered by our mud-sling-fest.
pm lee is foolish to do this, because although it will put a stop to a decent portion of the whingers/complainers/critics, there will be new critics who will try to “analyse” his conspiracy/schemes/strategy.
politics is not about making everyone happy. it is about the strive to balance equal treatment and equal opportunity, the strive to minimise suffering of the relatively underprivileged lot of society. but to stay in power, you’ve to win the hearts of the voting majority, who happens to be the moral majority.
even if pm lee said he’ll do it for $0 so long as his bills, logistics and food are sponsored, there’ll still be people slinging mud.
money is just a symbol that has value to our economic existence and physical survival in a modern society. hence it is a reward to those who work hard for anything, more so for the benefit of society.
and guess what, with the pay increase, top talents might think of forming their own parties to contest for elections because the effort will be MORE worth it.
if the prize of being miss singapore universe is US$10,000,000, you’ll get larger participation and the REAL miss singapore universe will be picked. better competition, better input. not to mention more sexy ladies to look at.
if being an MP earns you a shitload of money, i’m sure that’ll attract the good, the bad and the ugly to contest elections. people want choice. singaporeans, stuck in an almost one-party state, want a choice.
so, what’s your price?
about 3 years ago
Aaron says:
Fair enough. Then where else is he going to draw his salary from, if not from taxpayers?
So now our good boy approves of …. let me see, what’s the good word to use….oh I’m going with…robbing.. the tax payer (I suppose Aaron is not paying tax yet so don’t affect him), then donating the gains as being a morally good thing to do.
Interesting logic.
about 3 years ago
good samaritan,
I doubt he’s from the brotherhood. The brotherhood does not resort to his kind of methods. His tone may resemble, but there’s no substitute for the real thing.
And, I’ve been taught by IS how to recognize who’s from the brotherhood and who’s not. This person clearly isn’t.
about 3 years ago
funky,
It’s true that GCT has tried it before. However, the thing is that Singaporeans apparently think that it’s ok, judging from the results of the recent elections (or maybe they forgot). I don’t doubt GCT’s gesture as well, but apparently many people do. But, what puzzles me is that at the end of the day, despite all the nay saying and doubts, we only put back two non-PAP representatives into Parliament. There’s a disconnect I don’t understand.
As much as we say that leader should be moral blah blah, as MM Lee says, we are operating in reality. And reality dictates that we should not be expecting altruism in a pragmatic society. Only true action counts, i.e. put a few more opposition MPs into parliament.
about 3 years ago
sam,
It’s always a pleasure to read your replies. I’m just very concerned with Singaporeans being caught in the trap and danger of the “enframement” that Heidegger talked about. Of course, being a mere mortal, I too am caught in the trap of enframing, but I do hope that I’m sufficiently aware of the dangers to see other forms of revealing.
about 3 years ago
Seow Ching,
I’m just asking where do you think a government leader should draw his salary from if not from taxes. I fail to see the connect between that question and “robbing” people. I don’t think you should do a bait and switch in order to attack me personally.
about 3 years ago
http://www.channelnewsasia.com/parliament/videoarchives.htm
See page 2 – and watch Sylvia Lim kick some serious ass! You go gal! Watch the body language of Mr Vivian and Mr Teo Chee Hean.
Aaron – right – put a few more opposition in parliament – but first need to put up 6 member GRC, avoid the PAP legal suits/ name calling, staunch the walkovers, and yes, bloggers just need to press on. Watch the video before they pull it down.
about 3 years ago
Agagooga,
It is a counterfeit generosity that is contingent upon unchecked power.
Well said. I would now like to pose to you the question of who let the power grow unchecked?
about 3 years ago
funky,
Yes I agree that the GRC system is bad for political participation. And, the threat of lawsuits is a dampener. However, as you said, we need to press on. Unlike some people who think that talking is mere “moaning and whining”, I think that even talking is dangerous in Singapore, especially if your identity is known. I have lots of friends who think that one day I’m just going to disappear and end up in Moon Crescent.
I think that in Singapore, perhaps the only place that’s safe to speak is in Parliament because that’s about the only sanctury where one can speak without fear of retribution. Maybe I’ll consider running for office someday. For now, I’ll do as you suggest: press on and keep my fingers crossed.
about 3 years ago
i just hope that all you guys will not suffer from serious dementia and forget this episode 4.5 years from now.
about 3 years ago
Aaron’s earlier comments:
“I would now like to pose to you the question of who let the power grow unchecked?”
“…what puzzles me is that at the end of the day, despite all the nay saying and doubts, we only put back two non-PAP representatives into Parliament. There’s a disconnect I don’t understand.”
“Only true action counts, i.e. put a few more opposition MPs into parliament.”
And then, this one:
“Of course, being a mere mortal…”
Now, let’s play spot the difference / contradiction.
about 3 years ago
nancy:
Pose that question to the resident blogger here, since a PR stunt by the PM has him floored.
about 3 years ago
I do not think Aaron is floored. He wishes to believe, like I wish to believe too, and I too hate to see MM Lee writing a really bad conclusion to the PAP story, probably a sad 3rd volume of autobiography. Aaron is entitled to his believes on the integrity of GCT and LHL – but I see a bad replay of a bad play. While LHL donates his pay increase for the next 5 years, we all know it means squat when we see how GCT and LKY has egged PM Lee on in the back ground recently and how they are profiteering from the tax payers now. Next change – and how SM Lee Hsien Loong will egg on the next PM 10 years from now for the same rewards. Sigh.
about 3 years ago
Aaron:
“I think that even talking is dangerous in Singapore, especially if your identity is known.”
Your face is on this blog. You have written “interesting” stuff here. Aren’t you talking already?
“I have lots of friends who think that one day I’m just going to disappear and end up in Moon Crescent.”
It depends on which party you join, really. No disrespect but I seriously do not believe that you will be invited to a certain tea party anytime soon, unless you learn, research, study and examine your stuff.
“I think that in Singapore, perhaps the only place that’s safe to speak is in Parliament because that’s about the only sanctuary where one can speak without fear of retribution.”
If you aren’t brave or courageous enough to fight for the right to speak, a thousand apologies you won’t cut it as a politician. Stuff that bubble-gum dream of yours aside first and learn from the masters first (suggested reading: MM Lee’s memoirs).
about 3 years ago
funky:
Ah… You are one of those who see the light. Fair enough.
My humble advice is to be less naive. For a start, do a read up on Chinese history (all 2,000 years of it) and ask yourself how many of its main characters have integrity (let alone the political sort).
If it’s too boring for you, go on to the BBC website, get onto the country profiles and read how each political leader of certain countries (suggestion: start with some African nations) behaves after they come to power.
about 3 years ago
good samaritan,
IrCTP really sound like spyware, perhaps it is a spyware blogger. Can we have some anti-spyware to remove this pest.
But then, IrCTP might rename itselft to IrERP or IrPAP, or IrGOV, or IrLHL or sort of irritating name.