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		<title>By: logiclife</title>
		<link>http://aaron-ng.info/blog/racism-in-singapore-the-sequel.html/comment-page-2#comment-20553</link>
		<dc:creator>logiclife</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jul 2011 19:03:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@S.Robertson

Its refreshing and sad to hear your experiences. Refreshing &#039;coz you  feel good and being well treated in SCots. Sad because you dont feel home in your own country. 

Being an Indian myself living in U.S.  I sense that Chinese (most of them I would say or to be exact  almost all I came across rather) somehow feel superior to their other immigrant counterparts (from Asia). You can feel that the way  they   look at you, their body language, their attitude and behavior is totally different with their Asian counterparts versus the &quot;Whites&quot;.

I call myself as a liberated liberal with almost no prejudices but one thing I just cant convince myself is that I dont care for Chinese folks( the bad ones, I just f* hate them, the bad ones I mean),  I understand its still wrong. But bear in mind respect is a two way street and Iam no Gandhi to show my other cheek to be slapped.

So when I go on with my daily life and I come across a cocky Chinese or an Asian for that matter I dont mind &#039;showing the bird&#039;. 

Lastly, is very very unfortunate to know that your nieces and nephews still come across bad behavior and experiences, deplorable. No policy to deal with racism in schools = promoting racism in schools. Singapore govt should be ashamed of this. Just have a minority as a president or a PM is not good enough. Iam glad I didnt move to Singapore, I would rather be in a no mans land. :)

In the 10+ years I have been here in the U.S., I  swear that I have never come across a situation that had really left a bitter taste excluding some stares from some hill billies which I cant really include them as you can understand they are bunch of red necks who belong in the hills.:) 

But, trust me US is not perfect either, neither is India but I think as long as we can co exist with respect thats good enough for me</description>
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<p>Its refreshing and sad to hear your experiences. Refreshing &#8216;coz you  feel good and being well treated in SCots. Sad because you dont feel home in your own country. </p>
<p>Being an Indian myself living in U.S.  I sense that Chinese (most of them I would say or to be exact  almost all I came across rather) somehow feel superior to their other immigrant counterparts (from Asia). You can feel that the way  they   look at you, their body language, their attitude and behavior is totally different with their Asian counterparts versus the &#8220;Whites&#8221;.</p>
<p>I call myself as a liberated liberal with almost no prejudices but one thing I just cant convince myself is that I dont care for Chinese folks( the bad ones, I just f* hate them, the bad ones I mean),  I understand its still wrong. But bear in mind respect is a two way street and Iam no Gandhi to show my other cheek to be slapped.</p>
<p>So when I go on with my daily life and I come across a cocky Chinese or an Asian for that matter I dont mind &#8216;showing the bird&#8217;. </p>
<p>Lastly, is very very unfortunate to know that your nieces and nephews still come across bad behavior and experiences, deplorable. No policy to deal with racism in schools = promoting racism in schools. Singapore govt should be ashamed of this. Just have a minority as a president or a PM is not good enough. Iam glad I didnt move to Singapore, I would rather be in a no mans land. <img src='http://aaron-ng.info/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>In the 10+ years I have been here in the U.S., I  swear that I have never come across a situation that had really left a bitter taste excluding some stares from some hill billies which I cant really include them as you can understand they are bunch of red necks who belong in the hills.:) </p>
<p>But, trust me US is not perfect either, neither is India but I think as long as we can co exist with respect thats good enough for me</p>
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		<title>By: S.Robertson</title>
		<link>http://aaron-ng.info/blog/racism-in-singapore-the-sequel.html/comment-page-2#comment-20527</link>
		<dc:creator>S.Robertson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jul 2011 15:04:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a Singaporean woman of indian heritage, married to a Scotsman and living in a nice town in Scotland. In a place where its predominantly - white scots , I&#039;ve always been welcome wherever i went. Shops, Pubs,Eateries, you name it. Yeah sure you get the occasional idiots who utter racist comments at you, and are usually told off or floored by the locals for being a racist towards the minority. 

I come from a Multi racial background. . I feel homesick sometimes and when i do come back to Singapore, I want to run back to Scotland. Why?

Example : -

Bus - I sat next to this chinese lady who kept covering her nose and giving me odd stares. For a second there, i thought i had inadvertantly farted. and mind you, she  wasn&#039;t smelling of roses either. And to make things worse, she got up and muttered a racist remark at me. All because i sat next to her. I did what comes to me naturally and gave her a bollocking. She of course didn&#039;t realise i knew hokkien! lol.

Racism is alive everywhere, but i never thought i&#039;d get dissed in my own home country. My neices and nephews back in Singapore battle racism everyday of their young lives , though i admire their courage , they don&#039;t NEED to be defending themselves and their heritage. We&#039;re Singaporeans for god&#039;s sake. We&#039;re supposed to stand as one. &#039;&#039;REGARDLESS OF RACE, LANGUAGE OR RELIGION&#039;&#039;. 
And what&#039;s shocking is that there is no policy of dealing with racism in Schools!

Its sad. Because I don&#039;t ever want to move back to Singapore. I find it a pleasure to be around the Scots in my town. They don&#039;t take it as an insult , if i sat with them, beside them, have a drink with them or anything...  They treat me like a human. 

Less can be said of certain fools in my own country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a Singaporean woman of indian heritage, married to a Scotsman and living in a nice town in Scotland. In a place where its predominantly &#8211; white scots , I&#8217;ve always been welcome wherever i went. Shops, Pubs,Eateries, you name it. Yeah sure you get the occasional idiots who utter racist comments at you, and are usually told off or floored by the locals for being a racist towards the minority. </p>
<p>I come from a Multi racial background. . I feel homesick sometimes and when i do come back to Singapore, I want to run back to Scotland. Why?</p>
<p>Example : -</p>
<p>Bus &#8211; I sat next to this chinese lady who kept covering her nose and giving me odd stares. For a second there, i thought i had inadvertantly farted. and mind you, she  wasn&#8217;t smelling of roses either. And to make things worse, she got up and muttered a racist remark at me. All because i sat next to her. I did what comes to me naturally and gave her a bollocking. She of course didn&#8217;t realise i knew hokkien! lol.</p>
<p>Racism is alive everywhere, but i never thought i&#8217;d get dissed in my own home country. My neices and nephews back in Singapore battle racism everyday of their young lives , though i admire their courage , they don&#8217;t NEED to be defending themselves and their heritage. We&#8217;re Singaporeans for god&#8217;s sake. We&#8217;re supposed to stand as one. &#8221;REGARDLESS OF RACE, LANGUAGE OR RELIGION&#8221;.<br />
And what&#8217;s shocking is that there is no policy of dealing with racism in Schools!</p>
<p>Its sad. Because I don&#8217;t ever want to move back to Singapore. I find it a pleasure to be around the Scots in my town. They don&#8217;t take it as an insult , if i sat with them, beside them, have a drink with them or anything&#8230;  They treat me like a human. </p>
<p>Less can be said of certain fools in my own country.</p>
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		<title>By: nomoreappleplease</title>
		<link>http://aaron-ng.info/blog/racism-in-singapore-the-sequel.html/comment-page-2#comment-20483</link>
		<dc:creator>nomoreappleplease</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jun 2011 16:58:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Despicable. These are the everyday racisms that add up and chip away at the psychological well-being of minorities. In psychology, they&#039;re called racial microaggressions; will Singaporeans ever admit that what they&#039;re doing is wrong?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Despicable. These are the everyday racisms that add up and chip away at the psychological well-being of minorities. In psychology, they&#8217;re called racial microaggressions; will Singaporeans ever admit that what they&#8217;re doing is wrong?</p>
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		<title>By: twohootz</title>
		<link>http://aaron-ng.info/blog/racism-in-singapore-the-sequel.html/comment-page-2#comment-20092</link>
		<dc:creator>twohootz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Oct 2010 17:05:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chinese i bet.</description>
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		<title>By: zero life</title>
		<link>http://aaron-ng.info/blog/racism-in-singapore-the-sequel.html/comment-page-2#comment-20020</link>
		<dc:creator>zero life</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jun 2010 08:13:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m from malaysia, a malay. Can be said as the main rival to singapore in South East Asia. Been working in singapore for the past 1 months. Very beautiful city, clean and high tech. However i wonder how could the citizens stand the jet fighter noise every single day.

After completing my work, went to Suntec shopping center for window shopping, came across a stall which sells a rotating metal thingy. Quite unique. There is no price tag. I ask the saleperson the price, this is his response:

&quot;You better spend your money on something else more important, this is very expensive&quot;

I answered, &quot;What?&quot; (I heard him the first time btw)

He replied &quot;This is very expensive, you dont want to buy this&quot;

I asked again, &quot;Ok, what is the price, i want to know?&quot;

&quot;The price for the small one is 65 dollars, big one is 75-85 dollar&quot;

I then left, thinking of how stupid this person could be without saying anything. 

My outstation allowance is SGD 150/day. I really wanted to get that thing, but now i dont.

Guess what the race of that saleperson?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m from malaysia, a malay. Can be said as the main rival to singapore in South East Asia. Been working in singapore for the past 1 months. Very beautiful city, clean and high tech. However i wonder how could the citizens stand the jet fighter noise every single day.</p>
<p>After completing my work, went to Suntec shopping center for window shopping, came across a stall which sells a rotating metal thingy. Quite unique. There is no price tag. I ask the saleperson the price, this is his response:</p>
<p>&#8220;You better spend your money on something else more important, this is very expensive&#8221;</p>
<p>I answered, &#8220;What?&#8221; (I heard him the first time btw)</p>
<p>He replied &#8220;This is very expensive, you dont want to buy this&#8221;</p>
<p>I asked again, &#8220;Ok, what is the price, i want to know?&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;The price for the small one is 65 dollars, big one is 75-85 dollar&#8221;</p>
<p>I then left, thinking of how stupid this person could be without saying anything. </p>
<p>My outstation allowance is SGD 150/day. I really wanted to get that thing, but now i dont.</p>
<p>Guess what the race of that saleperson?</p>
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		<title>By: ed</title>
		<link>http://aaron-ng.info/blog/racism-in-singapore-the-sequel.html/comment-page-2#comment-19650</link>
		<dc:creator>ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 10:53:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good one Aaron.  You are the first truly empathetic person I&#039;ve encountered.  If there were more of you, this article wouldn&#039;t exist.

Keep well bro,

ed</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good one Aaron.  You are the first truly empathetic person I&#8217;ve encountered.  If there were more of you, this article wouldn&#8217;t exist.</p>
<p>Keep well bro,</p>
<p>ed</p>
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		<title>By: logiclife</title>
		<link>http://aaron-ng.info/blog/racism-in-singapore-the-sequel.html/comment-page-1#comment-19641</link>
		<dc:creator>logiclife</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 14:14:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>tintin

that is indeed a great idea..however I always thought that taking a second/third language in schools at least in US is part of the norm....not sure if its mandatory or not. In countries like India, where there are many languages, kids do learn other languages other than their native one. But I see your point. In a so called diverse countries like Singapore, etc, if the govt walks the walk, the things you mentioned should have already been in place..Its jsut not enough to observe some days like NAtional Heritage day or whatever , but actions by the govt and people should go beyond the eyewash and rhetoric.</description>
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<p>that is indeed a great idea..however I always thought that taking a second/third language in schools at least in US is part of the norm&#8230;.not sure if its mandatory or not. In countries like India, where there are many languages, kids do learn other languages other than their native one. But I see your point. In a so called diverse countries like Singapore, etc, if the govt walks the walk, the things you mentioned should have already been in place..Its jsut not enough to observe some days like NAtional Heritage day or whatever , but actions by the govt and people should go beyond the eyewash and rhetoric.</p>
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		<title>By: Tintin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tintin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 13:57:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmm..I&#039;ve always wondered-  it would be great to teach our children basic courtesies in the key local tongues. Why not include a non-mother tongue as part of Primary CCA/ECA and motivate children interested in other local tongues/cultures?? This would be a good initiation for the younger generation and surely worth a try! Better still why not institute Awards for pupils excelling in languages that are not their mother tongues? or make these languages non-academic...to spark genuine interest among the non-sporting, non-dancing pupils?
Having lived in Singapore for 5 years, I have observed that the older generation, regardless of their mother tongue could speak other tongues quite fluently. A stark contrast to our generation and the next one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm..I&#8217;ve always wondered-  it would be great to teach our children basic courtesies in the key local tongues. Why not include a non-mother tongue as part of Primary CCA/ECA and motivate children interested in other local tongues/cultures?? This would be a good initiation for the younger generation and surely worth a try! Better still why not institute Awards for pupils excelling in languages that are not their mother tongues? or make these languages non-academic&#8230;to spark genuine interest among the non-sporting, non-dancing pupils?<br />
Having lived in Singapore for 5 years, I have observed that the older generation, regardless of their mother tongue could speak other tongues quite fluently. A stark contrast to our generation and the next one.</p>
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		<title>By: Indian Man</title>
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		<dc:creator>Indian Man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 05:43:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@logiclife

well,in reply to your feedback,I would comment that wat I found about singapore government, is that they are very efficient and transparent, as compared to d government of my native country.I feel the government here really cares for its citizens, and thats wat every citizen want from their representation. Well done!..However, few areas,we do need to look at in Singapore.

I also wanna comment that people talk of indian communal riot,based on watever info they get from the media and then come to a conclusion. Well, I wont say that communal riot never happened. It did happened and will happen as we have so large diverse society.But the media exagerate it so much, people outside comes to conclusion based on what media tries to communicate.

In india, I have never seen people making friends based on race,caste or religion. These things never came in our mind also. Also I have never seen job ad saying that &quot;Only marathi speaking can apply&quot; or rent ad saying &quot;owner prefer hindus&quot;
Thats why India is largest democracy, thought the government isnt so efficient.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@logiclife</p>
<p>well,in reply to your feedback,I would comment that wat I found about singapore government, is that they are very efficient and transparent, as compared to d government of my native country.I feel the government here really cares for its citizens, and thats wat every citizen want from their representation. Well done!..However, few areas,we do need to look at in Singapore.</p>
<p>I also wanna comment that people talk of indian communal riot,based on watever info they get from the media and then come to a conclusion. Well, I wont say that communal riot never happened. It did happened and will happen as we have so large diverse society.But the media exagerate it so much, people outside comes to conclusion based on what media tries to communicate.</p>
<p>In india, I have never seen people making friends based on race,caste or religion. These things never came in our mind also. Also I have never seen job ad saying that &#8220;Only marathi speaking can apply&#8221; or rent ad saying &#8220;owner prefer hindus&#8221;<br />
Thats why India is largest democracy, thought the government isnt so efficient.</p>
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		<title>By: logiclife</title>
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		<dc:creator>logiclife</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Aug 2009 15:19:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@indian man

Assuming that India is your native country is... at least I dont believe in India there are recruiters looking exclusively for one race.It is not legal....My point is if people in  smaller countries with relatively lesser ethnic groups  (countries like Singapore, Indonesia), cant get along and co exist , how can you expect big countries like India or whatever with ridiculously large of amount of social classes can? There is no way I am saying that is an excuse, but I hope you get my point here.

also, atleast in India, I dont think I ever came across any jobs/rent ads/real estate etc advertising seeking only one race/religion. I think its against the constitution and hence illegal. 

However it is quite hypocritical that singapore govt encourages all these activities and yet... yet I have no idea how the country is called to have one of the most transparent govt in the world...

At one point we were seriously considering Singapore and thanks to feedback on the internet and blogs like these...we dropped it...and I have no regrets..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@indian man</p>
<p>Assuming that India is your native country is&#8230; at least I dont believe in India there are recruiters looking exclusively for one race.It is not legal&#8230;.My point is if people in  smaller countries with relatively lesser ethnic groups  (countries like Singapore, Indonesia), cant get along and co exist , how can you expect big countries like India or whatever with ridiculously large of amount of social classes can? There is no way I am saying that is an excuse, but I hope you get my point here.</p>
<p>also, atleast in India, I dont think I ever came across any jobs/rent ads/real estate etc advertising seeking only one race/religion. I think its against the constitution and hence illegal. </p>
<p>However it is quite hypocritical that singapore govt encourages all these activities and yet&#8230; yet I have no idea how the country is called to have one of the most transparent govt in the world&#8230;</p>
<p>At one point we were seriously considering Singapore and thanks to feedback on the internet and blogs like these&#8230;we dropped it&#8230;and I have no regrets..</p>
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