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		<title>By: Winston Cheng</title>
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		<dc:creator>Winston Cheng</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 18:21:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Humility, to me, is the most prized virtue but the hardest to do. Humility is giving credits to others when the Sun is up and taking the blame for others when it&#039;s stormy. Certainly something that PAP had never done, as far as I can remember.

The PAP also do not realize something, the people have outgrown them. They are way behind our expectations of a so-called first world government. If they are honourable, they should take a bow and exit graciously before the `F&#039; word has to be used.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Humility, to me, is the most prized virtue but the hardest to do. Humility is giving credits to others when the Sun is up and taking the blame for others when it&#8217;s stormy. Certainly something that PAP had never done, as far as I can remember.</p>
<p>The PAP also do not realize something, the people have outgrown them. They are way behind our expectations of a so-called first world government. If they are honourable, they should take a bow and exit graciously before the `F&#8217; word has to be used.</p>
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		<title>By: CelluloidReality(s)</title>
		<link>http://aaron-ng.info/blog/singapore-is-bigger-than-the-pap.html/comment-page-1#comment-15158</link>
		<dc:creator>CelluloidReality(s)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2007 15:32:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Boyying, 

if that sign is seen, the internet will make him a superstar overnight. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Boyying, </p>
<p>if that sign is seen, the internet will make him a superstar overnight. <img src='http://aaron-ng.info/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Ned Stark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ned Stark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 08:57:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Boyying,

the person who holds that placard can be said to have testicular fortitude; unfortunately he better have the cash to hire the best lawyers money can buy cause he will be slapped with a criminal charge :cry:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Boyying,</p>
<p>the person who holds that placard can be said to have testicular fortitude; unfortunately he better have the cash to hire the best lawyers money can buy cause he will be slapped with a criminal charge <img src='http://aaron-ng.info/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_cry.gif' alt=':cry:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Fellow Singaporean</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fellow Singaporean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 08:40:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For the good of our country we need a dose of different government; let the people and history decide whether it is competent or not.

Even China is enlightened enough to do something about the censor who went too far. One can read outside about dissent in China.

But if the media out of Singapore&#039;s control dare publish any commentary about Singapore which our government does not agree with, they will face a legal barrage about interfering in our domestic politics. And the case will be tried in Singapore.

In the meantime our politicians take pot shots at everyone else in this world - invited or not.

Even LKY cannot control everything; unfortunately he does not realise this and he is surrounded by people who are afraid to tell him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the good of our country we need a dose of different government; let the people and history decide whether it is competent or not.</p>
<p>Even China is enlightened enough to do something about the censor who went too far. One can read outside about dissent in China.</p>
<p>But if the media out of Singapore&#8217;s control dare publish any commentary about Singapore which our government does not agree with, they will face a legal barrage about interfering in our domestic politics. And the case will be tried in Singapore.</p>
<p>In the meantime our politicians take pot shots at everyone else in this world &#8211; invited or not.</p>
<p>Even LKY cannot control everything; unfortunately he does not realise this and he is surrounded by people who are afraid to tell him.</p>
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		<title>By: funky</title>
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		<dc:creator>funky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2007 22:45:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Aaron. I think the only way forward is if part of the 80 PAP members decide enough is enough and for the love of Singapore, our nation, our people, decides to move to become a new alternative party to serve the people. Can you imagine, after all the talk by various MPs, and people on the ground, MM Lee still think we are quibbling and are &#039;unreal&#039; - ie they will not set KPI for ministers, their pay will go up for PM Lee and SM Lee 6 months from now, and suggestions by good P65 MPs, Denise Phua, thio Li Ann  on accountability for ministers pay will be IGNORED. If the PAP MPs do not move out to show their dissatisfaction with the ministers, this country must fall. And that will be a messy sorry state of affair. That is why, I hope the likes of kitana and Gayle will continue somewhere...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Aaron. I think the only way forward is if part of the 80 PAP members decide enough is enough and for the love of Singapore, our nation, our people, decides to move to become a new alternative party to serve the people. Can you imagine, after all the talk by various MPs, and people on the ground, MM Lee still think we are quibbling and are &#8216;unreal&#8217; &#8211; ie they will not set KPI for ministers, their pay will go up for PM Lee and SM Lee 6 months from now, and suggestions by good P65 MPs, Denise Phua, thio Li Ann  on accountability for ministers pay will be IGNORED. If the PAP MPs do not move out to show their dissatisfaction with the ministers, this country must fall. And that will be a messy sorry state of affair. That is why, I hope the likes of kitana and Gayle will continue somewhere&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: boyying</title>
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		<dc:creator>boyying</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2007 01:31:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As insane poly has said &quot;STFU&quot;. Perhaps next election or next MM speech, someone will want to hold the message high in the air

The message is
&#039;STFU. Take the money and go.&#039;

We know what is rubbish when we encountered one. After hearing MM speech, I start to wonder what&#039;s the heck we paying $3m dollars for a old comedian whose also known as Mini-Me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As insane poly has said &#8220;STFU&#8221;. Perhaps next election or next MM speech, someone will want to hold the message high in the air</p>
<p>The message is<br />
&#8216;STFU. Take the money and go.&#8217;</p>
<p>We know what is rubbish when we encountered one. After hearing MM speech, I start to wonder what&#8217;s the heck we paying $3m dollars for a old comedian whose also known as Mini-Me.</p>
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		<title>By: guojun</title>
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		<dc:creator>guojun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2007 14:11:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>reminds me of the claim that without PAP Sinkapore would just sink back into the south china sea.

As per typical MM style, he skilfully avoided the debate once again. I mean, taking the bigger picture sure is a way of doing things but there&#039;s an even bigger picture called common sense tio bo?

Maybe the PAP is already in its decline...hubris comes before the fall.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>reminds me of the claim that without PAP Sinkapore would just sink back into the south china sea.</p>
<p>As per typical MM style, he skilfully avoided the debate once again. I mean, taking the bigger picture sure is a way of doing things but there&#8217;s an even bigger picture called common sense tio bo?</p>
<p>Maybe the PAP is already in its decline&#8230;hubris comes before the fall.</p>
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		<title>By: LCC</title>
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		<dc:creator>LCC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2007 11:57:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just thought that you may be interested in &lt;a href=&quot;http://searchingforenlightenment.blogspot.com/2007/04/confused-by-mm-lees-comments-at-ypap.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt;...

Apologise for the self-advertisement...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just thought that you may be interested in <a href="http://searchingforenlightenment.blogspot.com/2007/04/confused-by-mm-lees-comments-at-ypap.html" rel="nofollow">this</a>&#8230;</p>
<p>Apologise for the self-advertisement&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: rspec</title>
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		<dc:creator>rspec</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2007 07:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>there is also a going theory that the pay rise for ministers and the civil service in general may mean that the government ends up retaining the worst talent, because the really good ones who can get better offers in the private sector or elsewhere will leave, while it is only those who can&#039;t match their pay outside or can&#039;t receive better offers who will end up staying in government. this may be true for those whose decisions can be swayed by remuneration.
for those whose decision to serve the government are not easily swayed by remuneration, the pay rise would not have been an effective incentive anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>there is also a going theory that the pay rise for ministers and the civil service in general may mean that the government ends up retaining the worst talent, because the really good ones who can get better offers in the private sector or elsewhere will leave, while it is only those who can&#8217;t match their pay outside or can&#8217;t receive better offers who will end up staying in government. this may be true for those whose decisions can be swayed by remuneration.<br />
for those whose decision to serve the government are not easily swayed by remuneration, the pay rise would not have been an effective incentive anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: Agagooga</title>
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		<dc:creator>Agagooga</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2007 06:04:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about the unspoken assumption that paying more is both necessary and sufficient to keep talent?

Singapore is so one-dimensional.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about the unspoken assumption that paying more is both necessary and sufficient to keep talent?</p>
<p>Singapore is so one-dimensional.</p>
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