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	<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 16:20:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: foreigner</title>
		<link>http://aaron-ng.info/blog/the-economics-of-foreign-talents.html#comment-17087</link>
		<dc:creator>foreigner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Dec 2007 09:10:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>foreign talent. indians lying on the floor of hdb void decks

http://singaporeseen.stomp.com.sg/singaporeseen/viewContent.jsp?id=11257

foreign talent. bullying singaporeans
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YpXpvXUPzwQ&#38;feature=related</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>foreign talent. indians lying on the floor of hdb void decks</p>
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<p>foreign talent. bullying singaporeans<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YpXpvXUPzwQ&amp;feature=related" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YpXpvXUPzwQ&amp;feature=related</a></p>
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		<title>By: Not in his lifetime?</title>
		<link>http://aaron-ng.info/blog/the-economics-of-foreign-talents.html#comment-16118</link>
		<dc:creator>Not in his lifetime?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2007 02:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not in his life time?  Read on please:
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"With a rapidly ageing Singapore population, Mr Khaw said in five years' time, retirement villages will become economically viable.
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One obstacle is the high costs of land in Singapore.
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"My personal view is, our land is expensive. But we have nearby neighbours in Johore, Batam and Bintan. The elderly want to reach their doctors within half to one hour. So retirement villages in neighbouring countries is possible, barring the cross-border hassle. It is best to find cheap land on short leases," said Health Minister Khaw Boon Wan."  
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From CNA: 17 April 2006.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not in his life time?  Read on please:<br />
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&#8220;With a rapidly ageing Singapore population, Mr Khaw said in five years&#8217; time, retirement villages will become economically viable.<br />
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One obstacle is the high costs of land in Singapore.<br />
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&#8220;My personal view is, our land is expensive. But we have nearby neighbours in Johore, Batam and Bintan. The elderly want to reach their doctors within half to one hour. So retirement villages in neighbouring countries is possible, barring the cross-border hassle. It is best to find cheap land on short leases,&#8221; said Health Minister Khaw Boon Wan.&#8221;<br />
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From CNA: 17 April 2006.<br />
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
		<link>http://aaron-ng.info/blog/the-economics-of-foreign-talents.html#comment-16117</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2007 01:18:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sh*t.... Not in his lifetime!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sh*t&#8230;. Not in his lifetime!</p>
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		<title>By: Demoralised</title>
		<link>http://aaron-ng.info/blog/the-economics-of-foreign-talents.html#comment-16111</link>
		<dc:creator>Demoralised</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jul 2007 16:33:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When the old folks are discarded ruthlessly in this way because of economics objectives, against ethical, moral, traditional and cultural values, it would be the time for many to rethink about nationhood.  It would be the time for them to leave the country, if they have not already done so.
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When the roots of families are uprooted by force, through legislative means or whatever, and replaced by tom, dick and
harry from everywhere and nowhere, the little red dot would simply become a prostituted half-way house.  So, what for having National Days and saying pledges when nation-building is just for lip service?
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Moreover, what would be the Malaysian and Indonesian governments reaction at the point in time?  Is the calculation the sole domain of the govt of the little red dot only, and for its own interest of progress and prosperity, while chucking its own unwanted into others' soil?  What would be the political implications to the people and governments of Malaysia and Indonesia?  Won't it be a very good excuse for them to launch a co-ordinated attack to take over the little red dot?  Which by then would be a very attractive gem to own and possess, isn't it?
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When we treat our own natives in this manner, the morale of our people would be at its lowest.  The foreigners, whether talent or non-talent, would be stupid to stay and help us to defend our country and questionable interests.  That is when we would be the most vulnerable.  That is when our enemies can exploit and take advantage of the situation.  Can the armed forces  truly defend the little red dot effectively then?
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Economics is not the end all of the life of a nation-to-be!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When the old folks are discarded ruthlessly in this way because of economics objectives, against ethical, moral, traditional and cultural values, it would be the time for many to rethink about nationhood.  It would be the time for them to leave the country, if they have not already done so.<br />
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When the roots of families are uprooted by force, through legislative means or whatever, and replaced by tom, dick and<br />
harry from everywhere and nowhere, the little red dot would simply become a prostituted half-way house.  So, what for having National Days and saying pledges when nation-building is just for lip service?<br />
.<br />
Moreover, what would be the Malaysian and Indonesian governments reaction at the point in time?  Is the calculation the sole domain of the govt of the little red dot only, and for its own interest of progress and prosperity, while chucking its own unwanted into others&#8217; soil?  What would be the political implications to the people and governments of Malaysia and Indonesia?  Won&#8217;t it be a very good excuse for them to launch a co-ordinated attack to take over the little red dot?  Which by then would be a very attractive gem to own and possess, isn&#8217;t it?<br />
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When we treat our own natives in this manner, the morale of our people would be at its lowest.  The foreigners, whether talent or non-talent, would be stupid to stay and help us to defend our country and questionable interests.  That is when we would be the most vulnerable.  That is when our enemies can exploit and take advantage of the situation.  Can the armed forces  truly defend the little red dot effectively then?<br />
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Economics is not the end all of the life of a nation-to-be!</p>
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		<title>By: Lucky Tan</title>
		<link>http://aaron-ng.info/blog/the-economics-of-foreign-talents.html#comment-16109</link>
		<dc:creator>Lucky Tan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jul 2007 13:56:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jason,

The news article is found here:-
http://commentarysingapore.blogspot.com/2006/04/send-our-old-folks-away-to-bintan.html

It should happen by the time you're old because the PAP govt plans to import people to the tune of 6.5M. Already we see an escalation of rentals from our current boom, when our population hit the 6M mark...what do you think will happen?

Putting your parents in an old folks home is something people are reluctant to do ...but many have no choice becaus they have to work and have children to take care of. The costs of running such homes is very high in Singapore and children pay upwards of $2000 when they send their parents there. 

With Singapore Inc becoming a super-dynamo of growth, it is unproductive to have old folks around...so the PAP says ship them to Batam &#38; Johor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jason,</p>
<p>The news article is found here:-<br />
<a href="http://commentarysingapore.blogspot.com/2006/04/send-our-old-folks-away-to-bintan.html" rel="nofollow">http://commentarysingapore.blogspot.com/2006/04/send-our-old-folks-away-to-bintan.html</a></p>
<p>It should happen by the time you&#8217;re old because the PAP govt plans to import people to the tune of 6.5M. Already we see an escalation of rentals from our current boom, when our population hit the 6M mark&#8230;what do you think will happen?</p>
<p>Putting your parents in an old folks home is something people are reluctant to do &#8230;but many have no choice becaus they have to work and have children to take care of. The costs of running such homes is very high in Singapore and children pay upwards of $2000 when they send their parents there. </p>
<p>With Singapore Inc becoming a super-dynamo of growth, it is unproductive to have old folks around&#8230;so the PAP says ship them to Batam &amp; Johor.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
		<link>http://aaron-ng.info/blog/the-economics-of-foreign-talents.html#comment-16108</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jul 2007 13:01:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I missed out on Khaw saying that. When was it? Not gonna happen in his lifetime.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I missed out on Khaw saying that. When was it? Not gonna happen in his lifetime.</p>
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		<title>By: Provoked</title>
		<link>http://aaron-ng.info/blog/the-economics-of-foreign-talents.html#comment-16103</link>
		<dc:creator>Provoked</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2007 02:09:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The old and the unproductive happen to be the parents or grand parents of the young and productive.
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If Minister Khaw, a former Malaysian, comes all the way to Singapore and benefited from Singaporeans sweat and toil,
has the guts to throw out the native Singaporeans, do you 
think he would be able to sleep in peace?
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People will go after him and his family.  He better think ten or twenty times before he makes  that move, unless he is asking for ............. 
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This is not a threat. This is nationalism and filial piety.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The old and the unproductive happen to be the parents or grand parents of the young and productive.<br />
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<p>If Minister Khaw, a former Malaysian, comes all the way to Singapore and benefited from Singaporeans sweat and toil,<br />
has the guts to throw out the native Singaporeans, do you<br />
think he would be able to sleep in peace?<br />
.<br />
People will go after him and his family.  He better think ten or twenty times before he makes  that move, unless he is asking for &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.<br />
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<p>This is not a threat. This is nationalism and filial piety.</p>
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		<title>By: Lucky Tan</title>
		<link>http://aaron-ng.info/blog/the-economics-of-foreign-talents.html#comment-16102</link>
		<dc:creator>Lucky Tan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2007 20:56:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jason,

Minister Khaw has already revealed possible solutions of shipping the old and unproductive to neighboring islands like Batam, Johor etc. It is all part of a bigger plan.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jason,</p>
<p>Minister Khaw has already revealed possible solutions of shipping the old and unproductive to neighboring islands like Batam, Johor etc. It is all part of a bigger plan.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
		<link>http://aaron-ng.info/blog/the-economics-of-foreign-talents.html#comment-16100</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2007 11:54:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lucky,
I guess the simplest answer would be that sh*t happens to these people. 

Yes, in places like Sillicon Valley, or NY, London, if you can't cut it, you could move to some other part of the country. The equivalent option for Singaporeans would be to move to Malaysia and Indonesia, which is, needless to say, not quite the same deal. 

Absent this exit option, there has got to be channels to get the gains redistributed, or else the system will breed an underclass. San Jose, and indeed the entire Bay Area itself, is known for spanning the spectrum - uberrich neighborhoods + throngs of homeless. That's a scary thing.

But we're just going to have to experiment our way through this. Nobody really knows all the answers here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lucky,<br />
I guess the simplest answer would be that sh*t happens to these people. </p>
<p>Yes, in places like Sillicon Valley, or NY, London, if you can&#8217;t cut it, you could move to some other part of the country. The equivalent option for Singaporeans would be to move to Malaysia and Indonesia, which is, needless to say, not quite the same deal. </p>
<p>Absent this exit option, there has got to be channels to get the gains redistributed, or else the system will breed an underclass. San Jose, and indeed the entire Bay Area itself, is known for spanning the spectrum - uberrich neighborhoods + throngs of homeless. That&#8217;s a scary thing.</p>
<p>But we&#8217;re just going to have to experiment our way through this. Nobody really knows all the answers here.</p>
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		<title>By: Wanderings, Musings and Happenings from Ian on Singapore &#187; Why We Are Forced To Choose - Life Or Citizenship.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wanderings, Musings and Happenings from Ian on Singapore &#187; Why We Are Forced To Choose - Life Or Citizenship.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2007 06:45:47 +0000</pubDate>
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